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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Gavilan and Rodriguez are best bets for me at 147.
     
    Flea Man, May 28, 2012
    Flea Man, May 28, 2012
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  2. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    No Robinson?! :shock:

    Or did you mean in addition to? Nobody outboxes Tommy, especially over 12. Fine. I don't think Robinson would even waste his time milling around. He'll take one look at Hearns in the opposite corner be coming furiously, and with a lot more power than Hearns has ever dealt with. Those SRL flurries ain't **** :D
     
    Hands of Iron, May 28, 2012
    Hands of Iron, May 28, 2012
    #182
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    He is.


    And so are you.

    Both men belong on the list.

    Lewis higher than Tyson.
     
    cuchulain, Jun 15, 2012
    cuchulain, Jun 15, 2012
    #183
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I just went through all of the lists and I gotta say good job on all of them. A lot better than a lot of expert's lists, even. Good to see my man Ike Williams getting some love at Lightweight as well :hat
     
    turbotime, Jun 18, 2012
    turbotime, Jun 18, 2012
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  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    No Roy Jones at 175 :-(
     
    turbotime, Jun 19, 2012
    turbotime, Jun 19, 2012
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  6. WhataRock

    WhataRock VIP Member Full Member

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    He came in 11th...missed the cut by 2 points.

    If I had done one today I would have found a spot for him around 9 or 10...but looking at the names ahead of him..it's no real dishonour to be ranked 11th.
     
    WhataRock, Jun 19, 2012
    WhataRock, Jun 19, 2012
    #186
  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    True. Surprised Fitzimmons made it over Roy though, to be honest.

    He'd have been on there if I was around to vote! :nono
     
    turbotime, Jun 19, 2012
    turbotime, Jun 19, 2012
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  8. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Jones is such a ****ing enigma. Just like Tyson, but on probably an even higher level.

    I do think Mike Spinks could give him a hell of a fight at 175.
     
    Hands of Iron, Jun 19, 2012
    Hands of Iron, Jun 19, 2012
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  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Should've retired after the Tarver trilogy. There was still some sense of mystique there, now we just have noobs watching him lose at cruiserweight thinking he was never any good :-(

    I do think Spinks' height and awkwardness would have caused him a lot of problems as well. Moorer would have been another good one, he is often forgotten and he had great power and boxing skills.
     
    turbotime, Jun 19, 2012
    turbotime, Jun 19, 2012
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  10. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Not even close.
     
    Hands of Iron, Jun 25, 2012
    Hands of Iron, Jun 25, 2012
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  11. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    :lol:
     
    Hands of Iron, Jun 25, 2012
    Hands of Iron, Jun 25, 2012
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  12. japtech

    japtech Member Full Member

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    Money Team
     
    japtech, Jun 29, 2012
    japtech, Jun 29, 2012
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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :thumbsup
     
    Rumsfeld, Jul 7, 2012
    Rumsfeld, Jul 7, 2012
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Agreed. 175 is historically rich.

    Here's a question, though. What if instead of going down to face Tarver at 75, Roy cashes out in a KO loss against Lewis and bows out of boxing.

    How would this impact his legacy at 175? Rightly or wrongly, I think this hugely influences the perception of Roy Jones. I really do. And even though I think his victory over Tarver is arguably his most impressive performance, I think his 175 standing would be HIGHER had he retired on the aforementioned note, even though he would not have regained the 175 pound strap before losing the rematch to Tarver which started his mental down slide.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jul 7, 2012
    Rumsfeld, Jul 7, 2012
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  15. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he would be a top 20 lock, argument for top 10. which is why i argue for him in the top 10
     
    Nightcrawler, Jul 21, 2012
    Nightcrawler, Jul 21, 2012
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