ESB Classic Forum All-Time Rankings by Division - P4P Survey Updated in October 2011

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jul 19, 2009.


  1. BronxBull

    BronxBull New Member Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins is on the middle weight list but not Jake LaMotta?? ridiculous
     
  2. Harvin87

    Harvin87 Active Member Full Member

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    where the hell is JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ ?
     
  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    How so?
     
  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    BTW everyone, I'm going to eventually finish that P4P survey at some point in the foreseeable future.
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    Having pac in the featherweight list seems dramatically out of place imo. I had him beating both mab and jmm but them two victories alone don't warrant a top ten place surely? Infact marquez himself is a greater fw imo
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Wonjongkam a top ten fly :lol:
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Marcel :deal
     
  8. FrazierVsTyson

    FrazierVsTyson New Member Full Member

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    only correction i would make is that hagler was the best middleweight ever. other than that great job man!
     
  9. 1899sharkey

    1899sharkey Boxings golden age Full Member

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    Jim Jeffries should be on any top ten heavy list. Tyson is barely a top twenty.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Tyson is one of the most dominant champions in the history of the HW division.

    would you have preferred had he fought less frequently, still defeating the same names but over a longer period?

    not only that but in 96 he reestablished himself as the best HW in the world, 10 years after first achieveing the feat after destroying trev.

    Jeffries is very very great, top 15 IMO. again a hugely dominant champ.
     
  11. Gangstarr

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    :rofl:rofl Mosley beating whitaker. You must be joking.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    :lol:
     
  13. Brian Zelley

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    ALI is rated too high and Ezzard Charles is not the best light-heavyweight

    Interesting, heavyweight list, an obvious slant when you have
    Ali, Frazier, Holmes, Foreman in the top ten - it is like the good old
    boys club of the Seventies with Larry tossed in to bend the result towards the moderns.

    Looking at the other divisions, far too many top fighters are missing in action.
    Wonder how folks dream -up their choices, is it a cultural thing an age thing,
    a race card thing or what?
     
  14. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    Well there are a few in the list of ten heavyweights that are over-rated
    by the starry-eyed voters. You have a heavyweight poll with
    ALI - FRAZIER - FOREMAN - HOLMES in the top ten. Now isn't that convenient logic. Build-up ALI to number one spot and to justify his superior standing
    boost-up some of his key opponents. Some of the voters must of researched their choices by reading old "World Boxing" and "International Boxing" magazines from the Seventies and Eighties to support their picks in this
    difficult decision making process. :hi::happy THE BEST OF BOXING :fire:scaredas::lol::oops:
     
  15. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    Let's hope it doesn't use these poll results as the ground-level source
    of the all-time best list because we can already pick the top four
    in this fresh new list and I bet your money that three of the top
    list will be Ali, Duran and Ray Leonard if these poll results are
    any indication of objectivity and fairness.:patsch:rasta