ESB Essay Competition: Were old-timers more motivated than modern-day boxers?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Jul 31, 2007.


  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Calzaghe's motivation is that of supernatural entity, can any old timer make claim to that.:think

    I can think of one for certain, that would be Maxie Rosenbloom...
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You + Jack Daniels = sense to me, but that won't wash in the morning.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Jack Johnson vs. Joe Louis, it'd be a hell of a fight no?:happy

    Maxie Rosenbloom was a god.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Nah, just a slapper!:D
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Only after plenty of IRN BRU...:good
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Johnson KO Louis 14. Bet the farm on it brother.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    To sweet bro.

    Water and bananas and ice chips.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    IRN BRU cut with rum.

    BTW McGrain, Louis KO 4 Jack Johnson.:yep

    That first day you joined I stated that Louis' era was an evolution from Johnson's, thinking back on it and relating to the recent discussions, it's really hysterical...
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :D

    Tell you, it's anti-gutbrew for me to pick v Louis but I think I have to where Johnson is concerned.

    You been picking Foreman. Wrong man (though right for your purposes). Louis KO Foreman 1.

    But JOHNSON. That mongoose. All night long bro. Catches and pitches. Just a genuine revel. A lift that lasts nine rounds. A tutoring in smothering.

    Under Johnsons rules, no doubt. Under Louis' rules...i hesitate to gamble but i'd be reasonabley confident in my prediction. I bet.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    No, I'm not wrong, I'm going to check that thread in a bit, rewatch some vid's and come back with more argument and try to keep it fresh without the bias.

    Foreman KO 1 Johnson.:yep
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Listyen, and I say this with the sincerety of a mostly drunk man, your bias is an absolute neccesity to your splendour. Keep it up. I find it reassuring.

    Foreman may well have KO'd Johnson early, possibly the only guy in my ten to lose early to big Foreman. Big lovely idiot. Get him Foreman get him!
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    So what do you reckon, shall we close this thread and move on to the vote? Or will some more write in?

    It seems it has become a bike-shed for Amsterdam and McGrain to smoke a noughty ciggy, tell a dirty joke and check out some cardboard talent...
     
  14. fists of fury

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    Today's fighters are money-hungry prima-donnas by comparison.

    Boxing has become an easier sport to participate in over the years. What I mean is that there are no longer fights fought in baking heat without cover, no longer are fights scheduled for 20, 30 or 40 rounds, the gloves are bigger and more padded, and the referees are far, far more compasionate to an ailing fighter, among other things.

    If the rules of Johnson's time applied today, how many young men would even dare take up the sport?
    What motivated fighters back then? For one thing, there was nothing else going. The NBA, NFL and NHL were not even around back then. Boxing was one of very, very few sports to provide an outlet for men coming from disadvantaged backrounds, especially for blacks.
    Many fighters back in the old days were literally starving, and a boxing match provided at least enough for a meal and a bed for the night. Jersey Joe Walcott said that he spent a good portion of his pro career literally half-starved.
    No matter how bad the circumstances today, you don't hear of such appalling stories anymore.

    Purses back in the day were meagre by comparison too, and that's partly why guys then fought so often. Hell, Ray Robinson defended his title only a month after winning it. Today, a champion rarely fights more than twice a year, and sometimes only once a year.

    Maybe it'a just a sign of the times, but people back then were willing to do more for less in all walks of life by comparison with today's standards.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    The quality of competition has just been raised by a good few notches:yep