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Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by GPater11093, Apr 30, 2009.


  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Twenty seems a bit extreme.

    If I were to do a ESB Hall of Fame/Greatness; I would keep it down to one entry a month, thus keeeping it a bit special and everyone who gets there deserves it.

    Maybe get a list of eight/ten worthy contenders each month; and place them in a vote, that finishes at the end of the month; with the most popular getting in?

    Perhaps also write a bio on the entrant?
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i am going to write a bio for every entrant, yes 20 does seem extreme i will cut it down to 5 a month but 5 to start it

    also cheers janitor i will add Brown
     
  4. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Old Timer (Last Bout Before 1925)
    Joe Gans
    James J. Corbett
    Jack Johnson
    Sam Langford
    Harry Wills
    Bob Fitzimmons
    Jimmy Wilde
    Panco Villa
    Jim Driscoll
    George Dixon
    Jack Britton
    Ted 'Kid' Lewis
    Young Griffo
    Peter Jackson
    Joe Jeanette
    Mysteriuos Billy Smith
    Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
    Stanley Ketchell
    Battling Nelson
    Owen Moran
    Jack McAuliffe
    Ad Wolgast
    Jack Dillon
    Les Darcy
    Abe Attell

    Modern (Fought after 1925 until 15 years ago)

    Benny Leonard
    Marvin Hagler
    Jose Napoles
    Benny Lynch
    Jack Demspey
    Rocky Marcaino
    Ray Robinson
    Harry Greb
    Henry Armstrong
    Ezzard Charles
    Archie Moore
    Carlos Monzon
    Willie Pep
    Sandy Saddler
    Carmen Basilio
    Wilfredo Benitez
    Bob Foster
    Khaosai Galaxy
    Kid Gavilan
    Fighting Harada
    Beau Jack
    Eder Jofre
    Ike Williams
    Ismael laguna
    Ken Buchanan
    Muhammed Ali
    Niccolijno Locche
    Ruben Olivarez
    Lionel Rose
    Pascal Perez
    Luis Rodriguez
    Emile Griffith
    Salvador Sanchez
    Dick Tiger
    Carlos Zarate
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Tony Zale
    Chalky Wright
    Fritzie Zivic
    Miguel Canto[/quote]
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With the 15 year rule rightly in place; my five would be:

    Pioneers: Jem Mace and Jack Broughton

    Old Timers: Sammy Langford

    Modern: Muhammad Ali and Ray Robinson

    Broughton and Mace both were the most influential (not Figg and Queensberry) in putting the modern sport together.

    Broughton through being the first to put together rules for Prize fighting.

    Mace was the first big name to see the benefits of fighting with gloves, and because of his popular world tours, reestablished the sport, as the authorities were driving out fighting under London Prize Rules.

    Sammy Langford was arguably the most gifted fighter of the first half of the 20th century.

    Muhammad Ali was an icon, Sports (as in every sport) Personality of the 20th Century; love him or hate him, it was and still is hard to ignore him.

    Ray Robinson was arguably the finest fighter there has ever been in the squared circle. A dazzling fighter and a personality to match, boxing was damn lucky to have him.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    cheers mate and everybody else who has nominated

    i am going to do pioneer after this nominations and it is up and running
     
  7. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    I'd like to hear about 60 of them, to start with. I'd also like to hear of atleast 40 of them which were not 'exhibition' bouts, with the legitimate rules that allowed a fight to the finish, for the sole purpose of making money LEGALLY.. I'd like to hear of genuine challengers, with genuine records and genuine ability to fight for the 'Championship' of a genuine nature.

    Your knowlege is second to none on the 'classic forum' Janitor, please fill me in mate.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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  9. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If any Pioneers should go in, I go with Jim Belcher, Monzoda, Jackson, Tom Cribb as the first and foremost before Mace gets in.

    These guys were the icons of the day.
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ok will add tem later when he have done the main vote
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To clarify, Mace gets in as a Pioneer of Queensberry Rules boxing. Although it should be noted Mace's trainer Nat Langham did a lot of development work in London Prize fighting.

    Mace's iconic status, worldwide, is greater than all those listed above.