Twenty seems a bit extreme. If I were to do a ESB Hall of Fame/Greatness; I would keep it down to one entry a month, thus keeeping it a bit special and everyone who gets there deserves it. Maybe get a list of eight/ten worthy contenders each month; and place them in a vote, that finishes at the end of the month; with the most popular getting in? Perhaps also write a bio on the entrant?
i am going to write a bio for every entrant, yes 20 does seem extreme i will cut it down to 5 a month but 5 to start it also cheers janitor i will add Brown
Old Timer (Last Bout Before 1925) Joe Gans James J. Corbett Jack Johnson Sam Langford Harry Wills Bob Fitzimmons Jimmy Wilde Panco Villa Jim Driscoll George Dixon Jack Britton Ted 'Kid' Lewis Young Griffo Peter Jackson Joe Jeanette Mysteriuos Billy Smith Nonpareil Jack Dempsey Stanley Ketchell Battling Nelson Owen Moran Jack McAuliffe Ad Wolgast Jack Dillon Les Darcy Abe Attell Modern (Fought after 1925 until 15 years ago) Benny Leonard Marvin Hagler Jose Napoles Benny Lynch Jack Demspey Rocky Marcaino Ray Robinson Harry Greb Henry Armstrong Ezzard Charles Archie Moore Carlos Monzon Willie Pep Sandy Saddler Carmen Basilio Wilfredo Benitez Bob Foster Khaosai Galaxy Kid Gavilan Fighting Harada Beau Jack Eder Jofre Ike Williams Ismael laguna Ken Buchanan Muhammed Ali Niccolijno Locche Ruben Olivarez Lionel Rose Pascal Perez Luis Rodriguez Emile Griffith Salvador Sanchez Dick Tiger Carlos Zarate Jersey Joe Walcott Tony Zale Chalky Wright Fritzie Zivic Miguel Canto[/quote]
With the 15 year rule rightly in place; my five would be: Pioneers: Jem Mace and Jack Broughton Old Timers: Sammy Langford Modern: Muhammad Ali and Ray Robinson Broughton and Mace both were the most influential (not Figg and Queensberry) in putting the modern sport together. Broughton through being the first to put together rules for Prize fighting. Mace was the first big name to see the benefits of fighting with gloves, and because of his popular world tours, reestablished the sport, as the authorities were driving out fighting under London Prize Rules. Sammy Langford was arguably the most gifted fighter of the first half of the 20th century. Muhammad Ali was an icon, Sports (as in every sport) Personality of the 20th Century; love him or hate him, it was and still is hard to ignore him. Ray Robinson was arguably the finest fighter there has ever been in the squared circle. A dazzling fighter and a personality to match, boxing was damn lucky to have him.
cheers mate and everybody else who has nominated i am going to do pioneer after this nominations and it is up and running
I'd like to hear about 60 of them, to start with. I'd also like to hear of atleast 40 of them which were not 'exhibition' bouts, with the legitimate rules that allowed a fight to the finish, for the sole purpose of making money LEGALLY.. I'd like to hear of genuine challengers, with genuine records and genuine ability to fight for the 'Championship' of a genuine nature. Your knowlege is second to none on the 'classic forum' Janitor, please fill me in mate.
If any Pioneers should go in, I go with Jim Belcher, Monzoda, Jackson, Tom Cribb as the first and foremost before Mace gets in. These guys were the icons of the day.
To clarify, Mace gets in as a Pioneer of Queensberry Rules boxing. Although it should be noted Mace's trainer Nat Langham did a lot of development work in London Prize fighting. Mace's iconic status, worldwide, is greater than all those listed above.