ESB just got mentiioned on 5live

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by curly, Jun 25, 2009.


  1. curly

    curly Fastest hands in the West Full Member

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    Buncey was on the show, and has mentioned our campaign to get a permanent home for boxing, wooo!

    There's hope yet
     
  2. ChrisC

    ChrisC Member Full Member

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  3. lucatoni08

    lucatoni08 Active Member Full Member

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    Ah I missed it, totally forgot about the radio show!!!
     
  4. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Good news lads
     
  5. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice avy. :good

    (unless your a hater - then **** you :yep)
     
  6. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Warren must be kicking himself that he has bothered lashing out moving the Khan - Kotelnik fight to the MEN arena...it looks like the O2 may be free afterall:deal
     
  7. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    booooo...I already heard that one.

    Still its probably the most tasteful comment I have heard so far :yep
     
  8. felix

    felix Active Member Full Member

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    yep michaels dead
     
  9. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Come on Kos you should no by now :nono

    I wouldn't wish this on Calzaghe's dad !

    Genuine shame, superb talent (I dont buy into all this 'kiddie-fiddling' bollocks - I just think he lived in his own world where he didn't see the problem with surrounding himself around children) i just wish i'd have had the chance to see im in his prime !

    Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury - best live entertainers of all time
     
  10. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good
     
  11. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dont forget Jimmy Morrison lads ;)
     
  12. Axl_Nose

    Axl_Nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You missed off Elvis, which for me is fairly unforgiveable .... Elvis and Jackson are the greatest musical superstars of all time .. Even though i prefer Elvis i'd say Jackson was clearly the number 1 talent of all time.
    Im a rock fan but Michael Jackson's talent in his prime was clear for anybody to see ..
    Freddie Mercury was great but he was a member of a band and whether its Mercury, Plant, Axl Rose, Ozzy or Bono its an unknown whether they could have made it as a star in they're own right .. Great solo performers are always far more talented than members of a band because they have to carry the show on they're own, for me the top 5 big guns in music history leaving out the great opera singers like Caruso and Pavarotti because Opera is a niche market ..

    1. Michael Jackson
    2. Elvis
    3 Jimi Hendrix (i know he had a band but it was all about Jimi)
    4. James Brown
    5. Frank Sinatra

    They are the big 5 in Music history, and just to keep this post linked to boxing im gonna give you the definitive Top 5 heavyweights of all time ..

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Jack Johnson
    4. Larry Holmes
    5. Rocky Marciano

    Some people find it difficult to seperate Ali and Louis but while im a big fan of Louis, the quality of opposition that Ali fought surpasses him. Ali's achievement of beating a dominant champion like Liston in '64 and then beating another dominant champion like Foreman in '74 is quite amazing. The way he adapted his stye to combat his advancing years was another amazing attribute, the vast majority of fighters will not or cannot adapt they're style.
    Jack Johnson was the greatest defensive heavyweight of all time and im not talking about the 'scared shitless of taking a punch' defensive styles of Lewis or Klitschko, Johnson's evasiveness based on fleet of foot was beautiful
    Larry Holmes didnt have the calibre of opposition of some champs, but his talent was crystal clear for anybody with an ounce of boxing knowledge to see. Suffers because he immediately followed Ali and Ali still held a powerful place in the affections of fight fans worldwide. Great boxer, could take a great punch, and without doubt the best heavyweight jab in history. Unlike Lewis and Wlad, Holmes's jab was a weapon it wasnt a punch scoring, range finding, pawing shot.
    Rocky Marciano, the most durable havyweight fighter in history. Deceptively skillful, powerful and unbeaten, that must give him a top 5 position. Unbeaten in the heavyweight division is so much more credible than being unbeaten in a career that took on C-Grade fighters in a stepping stone division like Super-Middle .....

    Of course people will disagree with my top 5, but it is totally unbiased as my favourite heavy is Evander Holyfield. People might say Lewis should be there because they can see him beating Marciano but i judge my lists on what the fighter actually acheived in they're careers not on 'what ifs'
    Lennox Lewis got beat badly by 2 of the most average belt holders in history, he couldnt take a great shot and his ultra cautious mentality inspired absolutely nobody, he never fought like a great champion he just sat behind the jab always terrified of having to take a shot, its smart strategy but you'll never be compared to the greats if your so obviously frightened of taking a punch. It was also obvious that he could never go 15 rounds like the others had to, he was usually gassed and lethargic by the middle rounds. I dont like 'What ifs' but its so obvious that if you get a guy like Holmes and Ali dancing round the ring, popping out the jab, moving in and out against a constantly flat footed Lewis then Lewis would be beaten comfortably, probably knocked out when he got tired around the 10th. All of the above goes for Wlad as Emannuel Steward has moulded him in the same light as Lewis, take center ring, stick out the jab, take no chances, dont get hit, bore people to death and when your certain that your opponent is disheartened by eating the jab then and ONLY THEN take a few more chances .....

    Emmanuel Steward is the man who has killed the heavyweight division based on what happened to his favourite fighter Tommy Hearns. Hearns, Lewis and Klit are similar, good jabs and terrible chins. The difference is he sent Hearns out to ultra attacking, taking chances and totally intent on taking out all opposition in the first 3 rounds. Everyone knows what happened against Hagler and Barkley. Steward was not going to make the same mistakes with Lewis and Wlad. Its because of his experience with Hearns that his strategy was the way it was with the fighters he handles now. Steward use to be an ultra attacking trainer, in the early days of the Kronk gym clinching was frowned upon and not taught and thats why when Hearns got in trouble against Ray Leonard he didnt have a clue what to do. Lewis and Wlad are directed to bore and caution by Steward because he his haunted by the strategic errors he made during Hearns's career ..
     
  13. Bunce

    Bunce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's got me thinking...who wins at their peak, Michael Jackson or Sugar Ray Leonard? This fight is at light-welter.

    Adios.
     
  14. darwoody

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    Jacko moonwalks all over that ***** till Dundee tell him he's blowin it, then Leonard probably knock his nose off.
    Leonard by disfigurement in the 13th.
    Any word on the show yet Bunce?
    You got any scoops for us?
     
  15. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is Michael Jackson dead?

    Why has there been nothing on the news about it?:?