ESB World Rankings - January Update

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  1. robpalmer135

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    Fighter of the month for December


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    1. Paulie Mallignaggi
    2. Tim Bradley
    3. Jean Pascal

    Please note that these rankings have been put together by ESB forum members

    Pole Question

    With Humberto Soto moving to Lightweight, and Salgado's loss to Uchiyama, Roberto Guerrrero and Malcom Klassen are number 1 and 2 at Super Featherweight.

    As Guerro beat Klassen via UD in there last fight in August. Should Guerrero be name ESB Champion at Super Featherweight????


    P4P Top 10

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Floyd Mayweather
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Paul Williams
    7. Chad Dawson
    8. Wladimir Klitschko
    9. Miguel Cotto
    10. Hozumi Hasagewa


    Heavyweight
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    1. Vitali Klitschko
    2. Alexander Povetkin
    3. Eddie Chambers
    4. David Haye
    5. Ruslan Chagaev
    6. John Ruiz
    7. Nikolay Valuev
    8. Denis Boytsov
    9. Chris Arreola
    10. Tomasz Adameck

    Cruiserweight
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    1. Steve Cunningham
    2. Marco Huck
    3. Zsolt Erdei
    4. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
    5. Victor Emilio Ramirez
    6. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
    7. Grigory Drozd
    8. Giacobbe Fragomeni
    9. Ola Afolabi
    10. Denis Lebedev

    Light-Heavyweight
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    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Jean Pascal
    3. Glen Johnson
    4. Tavoris Cloud
    5. Gabriel Campillo
    6. Adrian Diaconu
    7. Behbut Shumenov
    8. Karo Murat
    9. Hugo Hernan Garray
    10. Yussuf Mack

    Super-Middleweight
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    1. Andre Ward
    2. Lucian Bute
    3. Carl Froch
    4. Arthur Abraham
    5. Mikkel Kessler
    6. Sakio Bika
    7. Andre Dirrell
    8. Robert Stieglitz
    9. Librado Andrade
    10. Allan Green

    Middleweight
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    1. Felix Sturm
    2. Khoren Gevor
    3. Paul Williams
    4. Sebastian Sylvester
    5. Anthony Mundine
    6. Matthew Macklin
    7. Ronald 'Winky' Wright
    8. Dmitry Pirog
    9. Gennady Golovkin
    10. Danny Jacobs

    Light-Middleweight
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    1. Sergio Martinez
    2. Cory Spinks
    3. Yuri Foreman
    4. Kermit Cintron
    5. Ryan Rhodes
    6. Lukas Konecny
    7. Daniel Santos
    8. Alfredo Angulo
    9. Deandre Latimore
    10. Joachim Acline

    Welterweight
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    1. Shane Mosley
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Floyd Mayweather
    4. Miguel Cotto
    5. Joshua Clottey
    6. Andre Berto
    7. Luis Collazo
    8. Jan Zaveck
    9. Vyacheslav Senchenko
    10. Selcuk Aydin

    Light-Welterweight
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    1. Timothy Bradley
    2. Ricky Hatton
    3. Juan Urango
    4. Amir Khan
    5. Devon Alexander
    6. Kendoll Holt
    7. Marcos Maidana
    8. Paulie Malignaggi
    9. Andriy Kotelnik
    10. Lamont Peterson

    Lightweight
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    1. Edwin Valero
    2. Michael Katsidis
    3. Ali Funeka
    4. Joan Guzman
    5. Rolando Reyes
    6. Paulus Moses
    7. Miguel Acosta
    8. Antonio DeMarco
    9. Humberto Soto
    10. Anthony Peterson

    Super-Featherweight
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    1. Robert Guerrero
    2. Malcolm Klassen
    3. Takashi Uchyama
    4. Roman Martinez
    5. Mzonke Fana
    6. Jorge Linares
    7. Sergey Gulyakevich
    8. Vitali Tajbert
    9. Juan Carlos Salgado
    10. Humberto Guttierez

    Featherweight
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    1. Steven Luevano
    2. Cristobal Cruz
    3. Rafael Marquez
    4. Ello Rojas
    5. Yuriorkis Gamboa
    6. Rocky Juarez
    7. Israel Vasquez
    9. Daniel Ponce De Leon
    9. Jorge Solis
    10. Rogers Mtagwa

    Super-Bantamweight
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    1. Juan Manuel Lopez
    2. Celestino Caballero
    3. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
    4. Toshiaki Nishioka
    5. Steve Moliter
    6. Jeffrey Mathebula
    7. Ricardo Cordoba
    8. Gerry Penalosa
    9. Rendall Munroe
    10. Jhonny Gonzalez

    Bantamweight
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    1. Hozumi Hasegawa
    2. Yohnny Perez
    3. Anselmo Moreno
    4. Joseph Agbeko
    4. Fernando Montiel
    5. Wladimir Sidorenko
    7. Silence Mabuza
    8. Nehomar Cermeno
    9. Abner Mares
    10. Edin Sonsona

    Super-Flyweight
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    1. Alexander Munoz
    2. Nonito Donaire
    3. Simphiwe Nongqayi
    4. Marvin Sonsona
    5. Jorge Arce
    6.. Hugo Cazares
    7. Nobou Nashiro
    8. Jose Lopez
    9. Duangpetch Saengmorakot
    10. Yota Sato

    Flyweight
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    1. Omar Narvaez
    2. Denkaosan Kaovichit
    3. Koki Kameda
    4. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    5. Moruti Mthalane
    6. Luis Concepcion
    7. Takefumi Sakata
    8. Daisuke Naito
    9. Julio Cesar Miranda
    10. Cesar Seda Jr

    Light-Flyweight
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    1. Brian Viloria
    2. Giovanni Segura
    3. Rodel Mayol
    4. Edgar Sosa
    5. Ulises Solis
    6. Ryo Miyazaki
    7. Brahim Asloum
    8. Sonny Boy Jara
    9. Cesar Canchilla
    10. Carlos Tamara

    Minimumweight
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    1. Roman Gonzalez
    2. Raul Garcia
    3. Oleydong Sithsamerchai
    4. Donnie Nietes
    5. Nkosinathi Joyi
    6. Juan Palacios
    7. Milan Milendo
    8. Florante Condes
    9. Ronald Barrera
    10. Manuel Vargas

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  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not familiar with the ESB rankings policy, but I voted no anyway. Guerrero is no way the True Champion of the division or even close to it. In my view - like The Ring - the actual no1 gotta beat the actual no2 or in extreme cases no3 (Wlad-Chagaev, Mosley-Margarito after Tony beat Cotto) to be the true/lineal champ - or beat the lineal Champ, and I never rated and now definitely don't rate Klassen as no1-3. But in my view Mosley is the WW World Champ, Kameda is the Flyweight World champ, I still rate Pac as the LWW champ and yet to decide on Erdei's fate who could return to LHW, but I definitely don't think Dawson is the True LHW Champ. Obviously the title mess and moving up and down make these "Champ" rankings a bit chaotic, however I definitely rate Wlad, Pavlik, Mosley, Pac, Marquez, Darchinyan, Kameda and Calderon the guy to beat.
     
  3. robpalmer135

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    I can see your point of view but we have to base champ status on cosistent rules rather than opinion otherwise it becomes crazy.we do follow the simular rules to the Ring in that the Number 1 must beat the number 2, and in some cases number 3 fighter.

    I do not think much of Klassen either but he is in the top 3 almost by default as Soto has moved up and Linares took a tumble due to his loss agaisnt Salgado. Salgado then lost on the weekend. The theory has to be that Linares was over rated in the first place. So now we have Klassen as number 2 and he has alreayd been beaten by the number 1 guy. thats why I asked the question.

    btw I did the same for

    1) Dawson after beating Johnson (3rd at the time) as the view was Hopkins (ranked 2) is looking to either move up in weight or retire, not fight Dawson. The posters voted that Dawson should be ESB Champ. Eredi is now a belt holder at Cruiserweight and will be ranked there until he moves up.

    2) In a simular way to the Gurerrero question....Cunningham was ranked 1st and Huck in 2nd when Adameck moved to Heavyweight. Cunningham has already beaten Huck but the posters mainly agreed that Cunningham vs Huck 1 was a long time ago. Cunningham can beat Huck in a re-match of the number 3 fighter to become champion.

    3) I did a vote last week putting forward your same Arguement on Mosley being ESB WW Champ. It was decided that as Cotto had beaten Mosley previously, Cotto would have still been ranked ahead of Mosley going into the Margorito fight.

    also with regards to Koki Komeda in the Minimumweight, Flyweight and Super Middleweight if any of the top 1,2,3 face eachother the winner will be ESB Champ as the top 3 are so close.
     
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    looking like Gurerrero is going to get the belt.
     
  6. robpalmer135

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    btw if you spot anyone in the ratings thats been inactive for over 365 days let me know.
     
  7. robpalmer135

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    Jurgen Braehmer out of the rankings due to 16 month Jail sentance, Yussuf Mack goes in at 10
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Who the hell put that cheating slug John Ruiz at #6 in the HW rankings? There's plenty better HWs out there than him.