ESB World Rankings Poll: Who is the No.1 Super Middleweight

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  1. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    errr, obviously you're not a big-picture type of guy... overall rankings are not predicated on just a single fight, but a series of performances versus multiple opponents, win and lose, knockout and decisions. Not everything is cut and dry, black and white.

    Even though Buster Douglas had his day with Mike Tyson, AND got the belt - are you saying that Buster Douglas is better than Mike Tyson then? According to your logic, thats what you seem to be saying to me...
     
  2. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward's victory over Kessler was garbage.
     
  3. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And against Green was even worse.
     
  4. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    He was at that point.

    Rankings are a point time, and good for that point in time.

    At that point in time Douglas WAS better than Tyson, he proved it.

    So how would a fighter get a title shot in your world?

    Fighter A is 20-5 and beats fighter B who was 30-0. Does fighter B still get the first shot at the title becuase his record is still better??

    Keith
     
  5. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    Yeah, winning 12 straight rounds against a one loss fighter is HORRIBLE.

    Keith
     
  6. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    err, im assuming you're predicting a KO vs Carl Froch on Sept 16?
    Right now he's got 1win and 1loss in the Super6 tournament.
    He gets 2points for the win and another point for the KO/TKO.
    Officially he has 3 points at this moment.
    Andre Ward has 4 points for 2 wins.
    Andre Dirrell has 2 points for 1 win
    Carl Froch has 2 points for 1 win
    Mikkel Kessler has 2 points for 1 win
    and lastly, Allen Green has 0 points. Even if there was a rule for him to garnish Jermain Taylor's points as his substitution, it still would be 0, lawlz

    Super6 tourney is entering in the 3rd stage/round
    Carl Froch vs Authur Abraham Sept 16
    Andre Dirrell vs Andre Ward Sept 25
    Mikkel Kessler vs Allen Green TBA

    The top4 point holders will go on to a quarterfinals bracket system. Andre Ward already solidified his spot w/ 4 points, so he can take a loss and still get into the quarterfinals, not that he intends to do that....
     
  7. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    Ivo is a dip**** Euro nuthugger.

    So my guess is he was counting AA's DQ of Dirrel as another 3 points because in his deluded eyes he should have been credited with a ko.

    Keith
     
  8. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know the official scoring very well. I said that he practically had 6 points.

    I am not predicting a KO versus Froch. I meant the Abraham v Dirrell fight which should have been a KO for Abraham. I know that officially Abraham has 3 points but he should have 6 points if it were fair and just. Dirrell was losing the fight and he started falling apart. So in my book Abraham has 6 points.
     
  9. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    WoW. Did I call that or what???



    Keith
     
  10. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    lol holy cow d00d
    you're not too PC are ya?

    going with that - imo that was a real pitiful ending of what could have been Andre Dirrell's greatest victory. That was an intentional cop-out move by AA, and Dirrell showed he doesnt have a heart of a champion by using AA's cop-out out of a clean victory against him...
     
  11. WesT

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    Green is a horrible fighter and should have been ko'ed / Tko'ed in Ward's case.
     
  12. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Relax a little, keith. You are losing it. Who cares about euro, dollar or quid?

    It is about skills and performance not about some geography.
     
  13. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    Yet, all you ever talk about are Euro fighters.

    Look at your delusional bull**** take on the Dirrell-AA fight. You actually said you had Aa winning the fight!!!!:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Aa's mom didn't have him winning.



    Your a biased hack. Always have been.


    Keith
     
  14. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    I call it like I see it. Did you see his post right after mine??


    ****ing predictable.


    BTW, Welcome to the board.


    Keith
     
  15. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You cannot win rounds leading with your head, spending hours on the ropes poking someone. He would not have won that rounds fighting outside of his backyard. Only in his backyard he wins those rounds with dirty tactics. That's why he refuses to fight outside of the comfort of his backyard.