ESB World Rankings Poll: Who is the No.1 Super Middleweight

LoL at old fat Simms

 

It will be more exciting, because Green will land some more meaningfull punches than he did against Ward.

Keith

 

Undefeated too.

He's a better win than Andrade.


Keith

 

lol, obviously you are one of those so-called Headbutt Conspiracy Theorists lol. I dont think Andre Ward has gotten even 1 point deduction from headbutts... Kessler and his devotees are just lousy in defeat, just as Allen Green is... "but but but, he fought dirty!" Sounds like a little kid just being a whiny ***** about a good whooping by a tougher opponent. A referee is there and calls any illegal contact. Even so, a culmination of headbutt and dirty fighting excuses cannot expell a losing performance...

 

Well said.

the fact is, Ward could have ko'd him with the first punch, and they would be talking about how "Kessler Wasn't ready yet".... or something like that.

 

Kessler was rusty but he'll still lose to Ward if they fight again.I like Ward,I think he is a little overrated but not much , i like that he is modest he is conditioned and he respects his opponents. I hate that instead of using his skill to outclass, outbox, tko a poor fighter in Green he chose to wrestle him.I saw headbutts in the Kessler fight and i saw some in the Green fight .. i hope he stops doing that.It's not fair for the other guy intentional or not he is doing them and they are illegal and they can mess up a little with the mental status of the adversary.

 

In that case, if it continues to get the W's, keep on doing it. Maybe one of these fights, a capable, professional opponent will be skilled enough to counter it.

If not, tuff sh*t.

 

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You also can't excuse a fighter who is dirty because he's great.
He never had a point deduction for buttheads? That may be the problem for many boxing fans.

I'm not a Kessler fan. I think Ward was brilliant against Mikkel. I think Ward sometimes fights dirty for nothing. Like against Green, he had not to do a dull fight like that. He could have won the way he wanted. He chose the dull way. That's not fan friendly, that's all. But that doesn't change anything about his talent, you know.

 

Keep in mind that this pool comes right after Ward's victory. People tend to vote like this while it's still "hot". Make the same pool after a Bute victory and it will probably be the opposite.

 

true but bute didn't put himself out there enough to be a part of this.

 

:huh An affirmative negation?
If Bute fights Hopkins and beats him would you say "he put himself out there enough to be part of this"?

 

Voted for Bute.

Green should not be in the top fifteen.

He lost to Miranda, he won less rounds against Ward than Miranda, and he's never actually beaten anyone that's better than Miranda. There's no actual reason to think he's not worse than Miranda, and Miranda doesn't get in the top 15.