ESB World Rankings

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by robpalmer135, Nov 18, 2009.


  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    before the summer Kosaros started putting them together with help from myself and Losfer Words. then everyone on the Brit forum got involved and added there input. the P4P was done with a vote, and movement happen when a couple of posters agree.

    Someone who is clearly the number 1 in a division is champion. We follow the same rule as the Ring where if the number 1 ranked fighter faces the number 2 or even 3, they become Champion. ESB welter is vacant because Cotto beat Mosley, Margorito beat Cotto, Mosley beat Margorito. Mayweather didnt beat a Welterweight, and Pacquiao beat Cotto who was at number 2.

    we have british rankings as well in a sticky, they have not been updated in a while. Think Kos will get round to it soon.

    every brit forum regular should try and input. I think its a good way of the true fans on here knowing whether a a challanger is a legitimate one or not.
     
  2. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    fair enough..and best of luck with it.

    personally, and i'm not knocking it, i'd like to see, say, a ten man esb panel who would debate among themselves the results of the posters choices...with one man, say yourself, heading up the panel...and compile the ratings based on that...but that could be hard to organise.
     
  3. robpalmer135

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    I tend to agree Doug its an idea i put forward previously. It pretty much happens anyway as only regular posters will post on the rankings every week, and only respected posters will be listend to.

    If anyone is interested in doing what Doug said, PM me and i will look into a way of setting it up. We should do the same for the British rankings as well.
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    ****, my bad:good
     
  5. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very good Rob, only real problems I see are that there are 12 boxers in the heavyweight division and Adamek's name is spelt wrong :lol:

    Also, Z Gorres sadly won't be fighting again so he will have to be replaced in the rankings.
     
  6. robpalmer135

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    What division??
     
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    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Israel Vazquez the 6th best boxer in the world when he's had only one fight since March last year and that was against a journeyman type?

    Similar thing with Rafa Marquez who's #9 P4P/
     
  8. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great list, and great work Rob!

    Havent got time to go through it with a toothcomb, but it looks pretty good to me.

    Small comments... I too have issues with Izzy being ranked so high in P4P list. Inactivity and then a nothing fight last month? Same applies to R Marquez for me too.

    I'd also have no issue with calling Kessler the SMW champ, but I understand if you're waiting for the super six to finish before naming that one.
     
  9. robpalmer135

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    I am going to do a new P4P.

    Please PM me your lists. I will start a thread to.

    Kessler has not beat anyone since his Calzaghe loss to deserve that crown. whoever wins the Super 6 will be champion. Infact if Kessler beats Ward, the winner of Froch vs Kessler will be.
     
  10. robpalmer135

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    This weekends changes

    Cruiserweight

    Zsolt Erdei (4 LHW) beat Giacobbe Fragomeni (3) via 12 round UD, for Fragomeni's WBC cruiserweight title – Erdei to 3rd, Fragomeni to 10th, Karo Murat to 10th at LHW

    Super Middleweight

    Andre Ward (7) beat Mikkel Kessler (1) 11 round UD (Cuts) for Kessler's WBA super middleweight title – Ward to 1st, Kessler to 5th

    Light Welterweight

    Marcos Maidana (7) beat William Gonzalez via round 3 TKO – No Movement

    Super Featherweight

    Vitali Tajbert beat (unranked) Humberto Mauro Gutierrez ( via 12 round UD – Tajbert to 9th, Gutierrez unranked
    Jorge Barrios (6 SFW) beat Michael Lozada, 12 rounds at lightweight – Barrios now unranked at LW, Humberto Martinez 10 at SFW

    Super Bantamweight

    Rendall Munroe (10) beat Simone Maludrottu (unranked) via 12 Round UD for Munroe's European super bantamweight title – Munroe to 9th
    Steve Molitor (5) beat Jose Saez via 8 round UD – No Movment

    Super Flyweight to Minimum

    Moruti Mthalane ( beat Julio Cesar Miranda (6) via 12 round UD for vacant IBF flyweight title – Mthalane to 5th, Miranda to 9th
    Rodel Mayol (unranked) beat Edgar Sosa (1) via Round 2 TKO for Sosa's WBC light flyweight title – Mayol to 1st, Sosa to 4th

    Giovani Segura (3) vs. Sonny Boy Jaro (unranked) 12 round, for Segura's WBA light flyweight title – No Movment
     
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    This weekend changes have been made

    Super Middleweight

    Lucian Bute (3) beat Librado Andrade (6) via Round 4 KO in a rematch for Bute's IBF super middleweight title – Bute to 2nd, Andrade down to 9th.

    Lightweight
    Ali Funeka (6) drew with Joan Guzman (4) over 12 rounds, for vacant IBF lightweight title – Funeka moves ahead to 4th, Guzman down to 5th (Funeka clearly won, these are fan rankings **** judges will not effect them

    Flyweightwill not affect them)
    Koki Kameda (8) beat Daisuke Naito (2) via 12 round UD for Naito's WBC flyweight title – Kameda to 3rd, Naito to 8th
     
  13. robpalmer135

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    November fighter of the month nominess are;

    Lucian Bute
    Andre Ward
    Manny Pacquiao
    David Haye
    Chad Dawson
    Zsolt Eredi

    I am going with

    1) Manny Pacquiao
    2) Andre Ward
    3) David Haye
     
  14. liamo1982

    liamo1982 New Member Full Member

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    I'd go with

    1)Manny Pacquio
    2)Andre Ward
    3)Lucian Bute

    Although Haye won I dont feel it was as impressive as Bute's was although Zsolt Eredi deserves a mention.
     
  15. Raashid

    Raashid Member Full Member

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    Does linearity not come into the equation? In days gone by when there was just a single champion in each division, the champ could conceivabbly not be the best in the division.