before the summer Kosaros started putting them together with help from myself and Losfer Words. then everyone on the Brit forum got involved and added there input. the P4P was done with a vote, and movement happen when a couple of posters agree. Someone who is clearly the number 1 in a division is champion. We follow the same rule as the Ring where if the number 1 ranked fighter faces the number 2 or even 3, they become Champion. ESB welter is vacant because Cotto beat Mosley, Margorito beat Cotto, Mosley beat Margorito. Mayweather didnt beat a Welterweight, and Pacquiao beat Cotto who was at number 2. we have british rankings as well in a sticky, they have not been updated in a while. Think Kos will get round to it soon. every brit forum regular should try and input. I think its a good way of the true fans on here knowing whether a a challanger is a legitimate one or not.
fair enough..and best of luck with it. personally, and i'm not knocking it, i'd like to see, say, a ten man esb panel who would debate among themselves the results of the posters choices...with one man, say yourself, heading up the panel...and compile the ratings based on that...but that could be hard to organise.
I tend to agree Doug its an idea i put forward previously. It pretty much happens anyway as only regular posters will post on the rankings every week, and only respected posters will be listend to. If anyone is interested in doing what Doug said, PM me and i will look into a way of setting it up. We should do the same for the British rankings as well.
Very good Rob, only real problems I see are that there are 12 boxers in the heavyweight division and Adamek's name is spelt wrong Also, Z Gorres sadly won't be fighting again so he will have to be replaced in the rankings.
Israel Vazquez the 6th best boxer in the world when he's had only one fight since March last year and that was against a journeyman type? Similar thing with Rafa Marquez who's #9 P4P/
Great list, and great work Rob! Havent got time to go through it with a toothcomb, but it looks pretty good to me. Small comments... I too have issues with Izzy being ranked so high in P4P list. Inactivity and then a nothing fight last month? Same applies to R Marquez for me too. I'd also have no issue with calling Kessler the SMW champ, but I understand if you're waiting for the super six to finish before naming that one.
I am going to do a new P4P. Please PM me your lists. I will start a thread to. Kessler has not beat anyone since his Calzaghe loss to deserve that crown. whoever wins the Super 6 will be champion. Infact if Kessler beats Ward, the winner of Froch vs Kessler will be.
This weekends changes Cruiserweight Zsolt Erdei (4 LHW) beat Giacobbe Fragomeni (3) via 12 round UD, for Fragomeni's WBC cruiserweight title – Erdei to 3rd, Fragomeni to 10th, Karo Murat to 10th at LHW Super Middleweight Andre Ward (7) beat Mikkel Kessler (1) 11 round UD (Cuts) for Kessler's WBA super middleweight title – Ward to 1st, Kessler to 5th Light Welterweight Marcos Maidana (7) beat William Gonzalez via round 3 TKO – No Movement Super Featherweight Vitali Tajbert beat (unranked) Humberto Mauro Gutierrez ( via 12 round UD – Tajbert to 9th, Gutierrez unranked Jorge Barrios (6 SFW) beat Michael Lozada, 12 rounds at lightweight – Barrios now unranked at LW, Humberto Martinez 10 at SFW Super Bantamweight Rendall Munroe (10) beat Simone Maludrottu (unranked) via 12 Round UD for Munroe's European super bantamweight title – Munroe to 9th Steve Molitor (5) beat Jose Saez via 8 round UD – No Movment Super Flyweight to Minimum Moruti Mthalane ( beat Julio Cesar Miranda (6) via 12 round UD for vacant IBF flyweight title – Mthalane to 5th, Miranda to 9th Rodel Mayol (unranked) beat Edgar Sosa (1) via Round 2 TKO for Sosa's WBC light flyweight title – Mayol to 1st, Sosa to 4th Giovani Segura (3) vs. Sonny Boy Jaro (unranked) 12 round, for Segura's WBA light flyweight title – No Movment
This weekend changes have been made Super Middleweight Lucian Bute (3) beat Librado Andrade (6) via Round 4 KO in a rematch for Bute's IBF super middleweight title Bute to 2nd, Andrade down to 9th. Lightweight Ali Funeka (6) drew with Joan Guzman (4) over 12 rounds, for vacant IBF lightweight title Funeka moves ahead to 4th, Guzman down to 5th (Funeka clearly won, these are fan rankings **** judges will not effect them Flyweightwill not affect them) Koki Kameda (8) beat Daisuke Naito (2) via 12 round UD for Naito's WBC flyweight title Kameda to 3rd, Naito to 8th
November fighter of the month nominess are; Lucian Bute Andre Ward Manny Pacquiao David Haye Chad Dawson Zsolt Eredi I am going with 1) Manny Pacquiao 2) Andre Ward 3) David Haye
I'd go with 1)Manny Pacquio 2)Andre Ward 3)Lucian Bute Although Haye won I dont feel it was as impressive as Bute's was although Zsolt Eredi deserves a mention.
Does linearity not come into the equation? In days gone by when there was just a single champion in each division, the champ could conceivabbly not be the best in the division.