ESB. Your top 3 H2H Heavyweight and top 3 h2h WelterWeight all time.

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  1. FelixTrinidad

    FelixTrinidad Boxing Addict banned

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    H2H. Not resume or ATG Rankings.


    H2H.

    Heavyweight for me is

    1- Prime Tyson
    2- Prime Lennox Lewis
    3- Prime Ali


    WelterWeight 147-154

    1- Prime Sugar Ray Leonard
    2-Prime Sugar Ray Robinson
    3-Prime Hearns

    I feel at 147-154 the 6'1-6'2 Hearns is just too big for any WW in the history of the sport other then Leonard and maybe Robinson.
     
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  2. turbotime

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    Really not much wiggle room with those lists. I feel Ali or Lennox are #1 and #2 along with Tyson.

    I also would pick Oscar to KO Hearns. :hi:
     
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  3. FelixTrinidad

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    You will put Prime Oscar ahead of Prime Hearns?

    In h2h Match ups? I got prime Oscar really really high up there cuz he was a big WW also with amazing skills.

    But Prime Hearns seem to be a bit too much.
     
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  4. turbotime

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    I dunno, I feel Hearns and Oscar would do about the same against the best welterweights,ever except Oscar would last the distance and Hearns either wins by KO or gets KO'd. But I am down with your list.
     
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  5. Hands of Iron

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    01. Muhammad Ali
    02. Lennox Lewis
    03. Mike Tyson

    01. Ray Robinson
    02. Ray Leonard
    03. Thomas Hearns
     
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  6. turbotime

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    :deal
     
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  7. Hands of Iron

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    Though I certainly wouldn't put him at the top of a H2H list, I think the flat-out toughest fight for anybody in particular best-for-best is against Evander Holyfield. One of the grimiest, dirtiest, most rugged, toughest mother****ers ever. You will NOT stop him. Unless he's got Hep A or having a heart attack in the ring.
     
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  8. Jacquot

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    Heavyweights:
    1. Holmes
    2. Lewis
    3. Ali

    All I know is that those 3 would be very difficult to beat in shape and in their primes for anyone in history. What order they go in I don't know.


    Welterweights:

    1. Leonard
    2. Robinson
    3. Hearns

    Most will have Robinson #1, and that may very well be correct. Any round robin with those 3 would be terrific.
     
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  9. Hands of Iron

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    ^^^ Same goes for Kid Gavilan at welterweight
     
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  10. Hands of Iron

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    :lol:

    you remind me of bodyheadic
     
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  11. ripcity

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    People tend to confuse resume for head to head.
    Heavy
    1. Bowe:
    2. Lewis:
    3. Wald Klitchko

    Welter
    1. Leonard
    2. Hearns
    3. Robinson
     
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  12. JMP

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    HW: Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Larry Holmes (honorable mentions to Liston, Bowe, Lewis, etc)

    WW: Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns (honorable mentions to Rodriguez, Gavilan, etc)
     
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  13. Dorfmeister

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    Heavyweights:
    1. Joe Louis.
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Jack Dempsey

    But I have to say I love Tyson, Holyfield, Holmes, M Spinks and Ezzard Charles.

    Welterweights:
    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Ray Leonard
    3. Wilfred Benitez

    But I have to say I deeply respect ( not exactly love) Tito, Hearns, Floyd, ODLH, Marlon Starling, Don Curry and Pernell Whitaker.
     
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  14. turbotime

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    Granite vs China, granite wins everytime ;)
     
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  15. Hands of Iron

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    god damn you do not like that tommy hearns. or cuevas. :rofl

    big de la hoya fan
    big roy jones fan
    harry greb supporter
    jack dempsey fan boy :fire

    i'm surprised your little fingers haven't broken off yet with your type of activity level on here. :lol:
     
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