ESB's 2012 "Fighter Of The Year"

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  1. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    martinez , ward maybe donaire ...

    ima throw up if they give it to garcia
     
  2. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Anyone who actually mentions ward is an idiot!

    For beating a weight-drained, overhyped Dawson?

    It is either Viloria or Donaire. But Donaire is by far the leading candidate.

    Donaire has 4 fights : Vazquez, Mathebula, Nishioka and finally Arce.

    Viloria : Segura (end of 2011), Romero, Marquez
     
  3. The Mangler

    The Mangler Active Member Full Member

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    I guess give it to Donaire. Arce don't mean a whole lot. But beatin Math and Nish is pretty good. Not his fault Nish looked flat.
     
  4. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think beating wide odds is a plus when talking FOTY, all else equal. But forget that, we agree Khan is better than Chavez by a bit. Resume, talent, top level experience, p4p rating, everything but the chin. Peterson >> Lee, losing a shady decision to a juiced LP won't swing the balance. You think Macklin outweighs that + 2 Morales fights, I think even Morales 1 would keep Garcia ahead, so would have any fringe top ten win at 140. Matthysse got a ton of traction from Soto, who's no better than Morales (if fresher). And Macklin is just not that great of a win, a mismatch on paper. I understand Martinez will be favored wide against any middle, nowhere near that wide. Being pedantic, wider than Garcia Morales 2, no?
     
  5. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it was Fighter of the past 12 months, Viloria would be a good candidate. As it is, not enough
     
  6. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Donaire, easily
     
  7. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Donaire if he beats Arce and it's not even close in my mind
     
  8. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Viloria hasn't beaten Marquez and might lose, Donaire will smoke Arce.
     
  9. silenc

    silenc dropout bear Full Member

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    Donaire!
     
  10. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Danny Garcia!
     
  11. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the shoutout, but i have to disagree with you and others mentioning Ward for FOTY.

    He's had one fight this year, and it was against a corpse who hadn't made 168 for 6 years and had never had a meaningful fight at the weight. Both Chad and Ward are fine P4P fighters, but i really can't class it as a notable win. In fact, i'm actually a big fan of Ward and have been touting him as a future P4P #1 since the Kessler fight, but i really can't give him a great deal of credit for beating someone so far out of their comfort zone.

    The fighter of the year is Donaire for me. Garcia, Matthysse, Martinez, Mares and - if he beats Mack - Froch have all had fine years, but Donaire stands out imo.
     
  12. Kissan

    Kissan I respect box Full Member

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    Good poll btw!
     
  13. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Hold your load, I'm gathering 411... Poll cummin'
     
  14. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No way Ward should be there, fought a weight drained hype job. I like Ward, but Dawson has never fought a guy at his age, the one time he did he lost clearly & he only fought once this year.
    Martinez: Stopped Macklin the 11th round. The Knife was robbed against Sturm & stopped Alcine in one round, so it's an underrated win imo. Then he humiliated Chavez JR. in a embarrassing way and only ******s want's too see a rematch, Martinez did not hold on when he got knock downed he stood his ground and fought. If it wasn't for the 12th round Chavez Jr. would never-ever be the same.
    But in reality i'm voting for Garcia, beat Morales, was a HUGE underdog against Khan & completely destroys him, then he shuts Morales up in a brutal fashion.
     
  15. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    The reason people say Ward I think is because he basically cleaned out LHW w/One fight. Who @LHW would be favored over him?
    ^But I understand why some would hate.