~ ESB's BIG FIGHT PICKS ~ back with four new fights this week!

Hey everybody, I've decided that I'll continue the league until the end of the year, but I'll need someone else to make the threads during July when I'll be gone for most of the month (either that or I'll just make one predictions thread with all the fights from the first 3 weeks of July).

I've changed one thing about the league without having a vote (I went back to the old system with a draw pick instead of a combined SD/draw pick) and I won't be changing anything else for the rest of the year unless people demand something. If you feel strongly about having a SD/draw pick option, speak up and maybe I'll change it, but I feel that the old system worked well and the SD/draw pick was unfair in some ways.

A third of the year is over and northend is leading the league by an amazing margin. This is a great week and we should have a lot of different TKO/UD picks, maybe even some upset picks on the HBO card.

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• correct winner = 15
• correct winner + correct decision pick = 25
• correct winner + correct stoppage pick = 30

Decision picks:

• correct wide or close decision pick* = 30

Stoppage picks**:

• 3 rounds or less off correct stoppage round = 35
• 1 round off correct stoppage round = 40
• correct stoppage round = 45

Draw = 50 points

* a wide unanimous decision: a decision where all three judges score the fight for one fighter and two or more of the judges' scores are four points or more apart e.g. 116-112, 115-111, 116-111, etc.
* a close unanimous decision: a decision where all three judges score the fight for one fighter and two or more of the judges' scores are three points or less apart e.g. 115-112, 116-113, 114-112, etc. A split decision or a majority decision is scored as a close unanimous decision.

** a disqualification or retirement will count as a stoppage win.

Blue riband events - really big fights like Pavlik v. Taylor, Calzaghe v. Hopkins, etc. - will count for twice the points as usual big fights. Scores for those blue riband events get multiplied by two.

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Please post your picks as follows: e.g.

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", if you think Calzaghe will win a unanimous decision over Kessler at a difference of points greater or equal to four points

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", if you think Calzaghe will win a decision over Kessler at a difference of points smaller or equal to three points, a majority or split decision.

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", if you think Kessler will beat Calzaghe by stoppage, disqualification or retirement in the third round.

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" if you think the fight between Calzaghe and Kessler will end up a draw.

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Anyone can join the league at any time, even late. In order to give late starters a chance to compete fairly, they will start in the middle of the pack, at the median position, out of those who have participated every week.

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If for some reason you miss a week and you are in the top 25 in the league, you will be allocated the median score for that week. Everyone has 3 lives (will be "saved" up to three times). This, to ensure top pickers are not demotivated by their failure to pick one week.

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A clean sweep system will be applied for weeks with 5 fights or more. The clean sweep bonus will be 20 points.

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If, by common consensus, a clear robbery might have occured, a review panel made up of brooklyn1550, kg0208, sean, McGrain and sues2nd will decide whether the result should be overruled for the purposes of our league. Unless they all agree unanimously that it was a robbery, we go by official results.

Good luck! :good

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northend: 540
C Money: 490
**dangerousity: 480
KobeIsGod: 480
iceman: 475
caliboxing: 460
Decebal: 460
MSTR: 460
Bulakenyo: 455
**196osh: 450
theunderdog: 445
*Pimp C: 440
psychopath: 430
sjc: 425
Amsterdam: 420
**jakeameyers: 410
Sandmanl337: 410
This bloke: 410
brooklyn1550: 405
**Cooke: 405
IntentionalButt: 405
pngo: 400
huki: 395
*IPitydaF00l: 390
PacDbest: 390
swedeone: 390
*Scorpy: 390
DanePugilist: 385
**cannon5974: 380
kg0208: 380
**cardstars: 375
o_money: 375
*H.: 370
jaco: 370
Boro chris: 365
**Kolya: 365
**Rise Above: 365
*Smith: 365
Astola: 360
MetroMan: 360
**Shake: 350
*Pharaoh: 345
**africandawg: 340
*Arriba: 335
cuchulain: 335
Samurai: 335
andyzOr: 325
*pioterbezkitu: 325
sues2nd: 305
**Zakman: 305
cdvandy: 295
**Brickhaus: 275
*Totomabs: 275
saul_ir34: 265
**Bubba: 255
**superchile: 250
**THN: 250
**Hawks28: 245
**nickthegreek: 200

All those who have two stars in front of their names: If you are in the top 25 and miss another week, your score will be increased only once more only, with the mean score that week. If you are outside the top 25 and miss another week, you will be struck off the list of competitors. You will not be allowed to rejoin.

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90% of the time new people join this league, they end up leaving it the next week. Plus, it's May already, so everyone who wanted to be a part of it is a part of it. I'll probably make an exception to this if you message me and ask to join, but after this week, when new posters give their picks I'll just ignore them.. it's almost always a waste of time.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT]

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I don't understand what you mean by "you didn't have a 50% majority voting for these fights to be included". Every fight got over 50% of the votes for "yes" other than the Angulo one, which got exactly 50%. The definition of a "big fight" in this league is any fight that people vote is big enough to be in the league. You have never heard of these fighters, but they've been on Shobox/ESPN multiple times and they'll be featured in important, competitive fights on an HBO tripleheader that will get them ranked high in their divisions.

Anyways, I'm not going to waste time defending every decision. This league is for fun, it's not a scientific experiment to find out who is the most accurate picker of huge fights. If you want to find out more about these fighters and watch them, there are a lot of places on the internet where you could do that and make an educated guess about how the fights would go. If you want to somehow protest the league by leaving, then that's fine too. I think you're taking it way too seriously instead of just having some fun predicting fights on a boxing forum, but hey, do whatever you want.

 

The last time I counted the scores was all the way back before the night of the Cotto fight.

You got the Cintron/Woods fights wrong, your Dawson pick was by TKO, and your Calzaghe by TKO pick only gave you 30 points (it was a blue riband event that gave many people 50-60 who chose Calzaghe wide/close UD). That brought you down quite a bit since a lot of people chose Margarito by TKO in the middle rounds and Calzaghe/Dawson by UD.

Damn, you think you're doing worse than usual? I'm only 5 points above PacDBest, mostly because of the JMM-Pac fight, but it's still embarassing as hell.

 

Should I not let people vote on fights like the ones on HBO this week and simply decide by myself if fights are big enough, only choosing ones that are truly big fights (championship fights against top level opponents)? There would only be a few fights a month that way, only one this month in Witter-Bradley.

I'm just wondering.. did you think Adamek-Bell was big enough for the league? Howabout Witter-Bradley? Would you think something like Pascal-Zuniga or Kessler-Sartison belongs in this league?

Maybe we could have one final vote on this and see what people want. It's hard to please everyone, but I understand what you and Decebal are saying and although running this league is getting annoying, a final vote on exactly how fights should be chosen is very reasonable and would help me out.

 

I agree with you, but Decebal has a point too. It's just that he's extremely passionate about this league, yet he left and chose to let me run it completely for some strange reason.

Decebal, it's extreme comparing this league to lbarrow's. These are HBO fights with fighters that have been on national TV multiple times. And the main thing is: people wanted to have these fights included. I now see what you mean by the "50% majority" thing, it wasn't clear to me before. Anyways, maybe we'll have one final vote like I explained before. Honestly, I don't care that much and I'd rather waste time talking about boxing than arguing about the league. This league has been a hassle to run, but I'll continue to run it since it's already been 4 months and people are committed to it.