~ ESB's BIG FIGHT PICKS ~ Casamayor vs. Katsidis ~ Andrade vs. Stieglitz ~

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by huki, Mar 19, 2008.


  1. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Hey everyone. Sorry, I've been pretty busy lately and I don't have time to count everything up right now. Also, I'm not exactly sure whether the JMM-Pac fight will count or not, since 4 out of 5 of the people in the review panel that was created scored the fight for JMM. I haven't received a PM from the 5th panel member yet. Decebal said that it shouldn't be a contested result because it's not an all out robbery, but if all 5 of the review panel members scored it for JMM, I think it's very reasonable to not count the fight. Especially since this is a league that has very few fights and one controversial result like last week's blue riband fight makes a huge difference in the rankings.

    Regarding the new scoring system where people can choose wide UD, close UD, or draw/SD that was proposed in last week's thread.. I completely disagree with having this extra choice because it complicates things more and makes the judges' scores more important than they need to be. For example, in a fight like PBF-DLH or Diaz-Campbell, the draw/SD choice would win just because one blind judge thought DLH/Diaz won.. so in essence you're trying to get lucky guessing that one judge will get the fight wrong. I think the old close decision/wide decision system works well and there's no reason to make things more complicated, but if Decebal wants to create a vote and over 50% of people want the draw/SD option, then we can add it.

    There's some things that need to be discussed, but right now I'd rather just put up this week's thread faster so people could get their picks in for this week.
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    • correct winner = 15
    • correct winner + correct decision pick = 25
    • correct winner + correct stoppage pick = 30
    Decision picks:
    • correct wide or close decision pick* = 30
    Stoppage picks**:
    • 3 rounds or less off correct stoppage round = 35
    • 1 round off correct stoppage round = 40
    • correct stoppage round = 45
    Draw = 50 points

    * a wide unanimous decision: a decision where all three judges score the fight for one fighter and two or more of the judges' scores are four points or more apart e.g. 116-112, 115-111, 116-111, etc.
    * a close unanimous decision: a decision where all three judges score the fight for one fighter and two or more of the judges' scores are three points or less apart e.g. 115-112, 116-113, 114-112, etc. A split decision or a majority decision is scored as a close unanimous decision.

    ** a disqualification or retirement will count as a stoppage win.

    Blue riband events - really big fights like Pavlik v. Taylor, Calzaghe v. Hopkins, etc. - will count for twice the points as usual big fights. Scores for those blue riband events get multiplied by two.

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    Please post your picks as follows: e.g.

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    ", if you think Calzaghe will win a unanimous decision over Kessler at a difference of points greater or equal to four points

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    ", if you think Calzaghe will win a decision over Kessler at a difference of points smaller or equal to three points, a majority or split decision.

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    ", if you think Kessler will beat Calzaghe by stoppage, disqualification or retirement in the third round.
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    " if you think the fight between Calzaghe and Kessler will end up a draw.

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    Anyone can join the league at any time, even late. In order to give late starters a chance to compete fairly, they will start in the middle of the pack, at the median position, out of those who have participated every week.

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    If for some reason you miss a week and you are in the top 25 in the league, you will be allocated the median score for that week. Everyone has 3 lives (will be "saved" up to three times). This, to ensure top pickers are not demotivated by their failure to pick one week.

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    A clean sweep system will be applied for weeks with 5 fights or more. The clean sweep bonus will be 20 points.

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    If, by common consensus, a clear robbery might have occured, a review panel made up of brooklyn1550, kg0208, sean, McGrain and sues2nd will decide whether the result should be overruled for the purposes of our league. Unless they all agree unanimously that it was a robbery, we go by official results.

    Good luck! :good


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    **196osh: 290
    MSTR: 285
    *J-M-P: 280
    iceman: 275
    Shake: 265
    Amsterdam: 255
    jakeameyers: 255
    *Punisher33: 255
    Zakman: 255
    Decebal: 250
    KobeIsGod: 250
    Pimp C: 250
    brooklyn1550: 245
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    Willy Bonka: 180
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    andyzOr: 155
    nickthegreek: 155
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    **Sister Sledge: 90
    **TheGeezer: 90
    **Jack Presscot: 70
    **McGrain: 55


    If you joined last week and posted picks for the first time, just post your picks again this week and everything will be calculated correctly in the future.


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  2. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Please give your picks for:

    Joel Casamayor vs. Michael Katsidis

    Librado Andrade vs. Robert Stieglitz
     
  3. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Andrade close UD

    Katsidis TKO6
     
  4. northend

    northend Active Member Full Member

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    Katsidis close dec.

    Andrade close dec.
     
  5. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Katsidis UD

    Andrade MD

    Why didnt you count the pac scores?
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I thought I was way too high until I realized those rankings weren't yet updated. :lol:

    Casamayor close dec.

    Andrade close dec.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Give the man a break, he's not getting paid for this pain in the ass chore. :lol:

    Patience. :good
     
  8. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even though I picked JMM...a win is a win is a win. Count it IMO.

    Ah this week I got:

    Katsidis UD

    Andrade TKO 11
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Casamayor TKO 8

    Andrade TKO 5
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I know Kat's going to get painted with that swiss cheese D, but you really think semi-shot and gunshy Casa can stop him?
     
  11. superchile

    superchile Well-Known Member Full Member

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    andrade ko in the 7 rd katsidis ud
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Basing it on the way Kat cuts. Casa's shot, but Kat is not a boxer like the last guy he fought, Kat's there to be tagged and ripped up and Casa can survive even if he's losing enough to continue doing damage.
     
  13. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Underrated Kats a bit here aren't we?

    Well...maybe underrating how shot Casa is to be more precise.
     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Casa UD wide

    andrade tko 9
     
  15. pioterbezkitu

    pioterbezkitu Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Andrade T/KO10
    Casamayor wideUD