~ ESB's BIG FIGHT PICKS ~ Casamayor vs. Katsidis ~ Andrade vs. Stieglitz ~

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by huki, Mar 19, 2008.


  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even though a slight majority of the forum scored the fight for JMM, a VAST majority of the forum believe it could have gone either way regardless of their own personal scorecard. This would indicate that they are ok with the judges decision. So the fight should count in my estimation.
     
  2. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    it better count or then u will have people bitching about every close fight. did marquez do enough to win? yea but so did pac. most media had it for marquez, but i havent heard or read anything about it being a robbery like lennox/evander I or something like that from a NON-BIAS source :yep

    btw, any news on your boy's next fight? :think
     
  3. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If all 5 panel members believe that no way it could have gone to Pac, by all means put it up on a poll. However most agree it could have gone either way so thats irrelevant what they initially scored it as. Put it this way, I scored JMM-MAB to MAB, yet I can accept and see how JMM won. Theres a difference between having a different scorecard but flexible with it enough to see how it can be adjusted, to simply blatantly being confused as to how your'e scorecard could be any different.

    As for cancelling it because it could have gone either way, well does that mean for every close fight there is it has to be cancelled? Cos I guarantee for every close fight out there, people are gonna be half-half about the decision. Take the Morales-MAB fights for example...
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No need for a poll lol....we already know that the panel won't be unanimous on this because I think the fight counts. I had JMM winning but believe it could go either way. We are here for robberies, nothing more or less as far as I know.

    And even if we all 5 thought it was an outright robbery, not enough of the members of the league think it is for it to ever come to a vote by us anyways. I would prefer the panel stay invisible lol.....only in crazy outright nutty decisions should we be voting in it IMO.
     
  5. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many of the guys on the panel picked JMM?

    It just comes off as almost picking what counts and what doesn't...I could see every fight having people screaming "DON'T COUNT IT BECAUSE -etc etc-"

    It's a good idea in theory but just not executable.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Panel works just fine :good

    There is some confusion by some on how it works, but I think it has been cleared up now. This fight should not be decided by us and I don't think it will be. The fight counts, so don't worry.
     
  7. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had JMM by close decision (and felt that was the RIGHT decision even now) so I'm screwed now lol.

    I just don't agree in not counting a fight.....JMO o'course.
     
  8. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Alright, the Pac fight will count. I shouldn't have even brought all this stuff up, but it seemed unfair to me to make a decision that over 50% of posters disagreed with count.

    The point of this league is just to have fun anyways and there's no point of turning this into a thread full of arguing. The Pac win counts. I'll add up the scores with the scores from this week's fights.
     
  9. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I know you're not an *******:D Yet, it was a close fight and PAC deserved the nod. I didnt have $$$ on it either:nono

    Honestly? I didnt like the scenario change idea to begin with and said so. You have a close and great fight and its gets tarnished. This aint American Idol, its who KNOWS BOXING:yep

    I credit JMM for his effort but Pacs power carried the day. PAC fought much improved over the first fight and didnt allow JMM to maintain enough momentum to pull it.
     
  10. jakeameyers

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  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Andrade via stoppage in the 8th
    Katsidis close Decission

    As to the JMM/Pac fight . . . it should count. That's exactly what a close decission is. Even if 70% of the people here doesn't agree with the decission . . . that's official and that's no robbery.

    We are creating a precedence here . . . close decissions in the future will always be contested by the losing majority. If there's anything we need to reconsider . . . it should be the "blue riband" thing.

    . . . just my two cents.:yep
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is no precedent being set....because the fight wasn't actually contested by the panel. Someone THOUGHT it should be contested.

    It can't be contested unless a vast majority think it's a robbery. Being a close fight where it could have gone either way isn't part of the deal and won't be.
     
  13. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    You're saying Pac deserved the nod like if JMM won he wouldn't deserve it. Most of the top posters on this site felt JMM won a very close fight (many of them thought he CLEARLY won).. you can't say JMM didn't do enough to pull out a win. This prediction league is about who knows boxing, so to me after a result where most people that "know boxing" thought that JMM won the fight, a Pac win should not be counted and the fight should not count for anyone. But again, the Pac win wll count.. so this doesn't matter now.

    This thread doesn't need to turn into a JMM/Pac discussion thread. We can do that somewhere else. Lets stop discussing this issue and just post the picks, so the thread will be easier for me to look through when I have to find people's picks and count all this **** up. :D
     
  14. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And had the decision gone to JMM you will have 50% claiming he didnt, should we then reverse the decision of the judges again?
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I give up....I just do:rasta