~ ESB's BIG FIGHT PICKS ~ Casamayor vs. Katsidis ~ Andrade vs. Stieglitz ~

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by huki, Mar 19, 2008.


  1. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Kats was on the way to winning it by decission . . . until he got starched.

    . . . almost 2 for 2 for me. :huh :rofl
     
  2. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    nice prediction there:D seems you're the only one who got it right, almost though a few rounds close but you got it right:good
     
  3. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Hey guys, I just wanted to let everyone know that there won't be a predictions league thread this next week. No fights are big enough to be included.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Are you still going to do the scores this week, huki? (Do you have the time?) I wouldn't mind seeing how everyone's done in the last three fights (one blue riband)

    :good
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :good
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah, I'm very impressed with those who picked Casa by stoppage!:shock: :shock: :shock:

    In fact, only two people got it right this week: Amsterdam and cannon5974.

    :clap:
     
  7. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Yeah, I will sometime this week. I have a ton of homework to do tomorrow though and during the rest of the week. I thought I would do it today but instead I got very excited about the Casamayor fight and spent the entire day ****ing around and doing everything but homework. :-( It's all good though.. I'll have the scores done guaranteed by next thursday. Not too excited about seeing my score though. :| One Marquez loss, one Marquez screwover, and my Castillo pick messed me up in this league. I'm winning lbarrow's league though, which is the complete opposite of this one that uses a system I've always hated. :lol:
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol:

    Don't bother with the scores then, huki!

    Work comes first. Just post the scores with the new thread next week!:good
     
  9. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    I was looking at the fights for the next 2 weeks and it looks like there are no big fights at all until the HBO/Showtime doubleheaders.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Sorry...I meant "next week" as in next Monday, not this Monday...sorry.
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Decisions about the running of the league - huki, please take note and put into effect:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1533325#post1533325

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    The current system system regulating changes in official results vis a vis robberies will be maintained as it is:

    The five members chosen for the review panel - brooklyn1550, kg0208, sean, McGrain and sues2nd - would have to agree unanimously that a robbery had occurred, for the official result to be changed. In other words, every one of them would have to say not just that the wrong man was given the nod by the judges, but that the "real" winner was robbed of the victory, for the official judges' result to be changed.

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    The scoring system will be changed to include the following option:

    "SD/Draw" (split decision/draw) - worth 50 points - to be picked whenever we feel a fight is truly 50/50 and that it could go either way, not just on the basis of the two fighters being equally matched, but also on the basis of the judges most likely not agreeing which style is "worth" more: e.g. pressure over counterpunching or counterpunching over pressure, etc.

    Thus, under this system, a correct SD/draw pick, when the official result was either Draw or Split Decision, would win you 50 points.

    A majority decision e.g. 114-113, 114-113, 113-113 - would still count as a "close UD" for scoring purposes, just like it has so far.

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    Keep current "blue riband" system in place for really big fights - these fights will be scored for twice the points that "normal" fights are scored for.

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    For a fight to be considered "blue riband", pickers must vote for it by a 50% majority

    e.g.

    "Should Calzaghe v. Hopkins be considered a "blue riband" event?"

    1. Yes....number of voted 18

    No...number of votes 12

    Result - it is considered a "blue riband" event.

    2. Yes...number of voted 18

    No...number of votes 13

    Result - it is NOT considered a "blue riband" event.

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    For a fight to be included the league, pickers must vote for it to be included by a majority of 50%

    e.g. "Should Andrade v. Stieglitz be selected for the Big Fights League?"

    1. Yes, it's a big enough fight....number of voted 18

    No, it's not a big enough fight...number of votes 12

    Result - it qualifies for the league and we pick on it.

    2. Yes, it's a big enough fight ...number of voted 18

    No, it's not a big enough fight...number of votes 13

    Result - it does NOT qualify for the league and we DON'T pick on it.

    (These polls would take place in this week's thread for next week's fights - always one week in advance)
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    • correct winner = 15
    • correct winner + correct decision pick = 25
    • correct winner + correct stoppage pick = 30
    Decision picks:
    • correct wide or close decision pick* = 30
    Stoppage picks**:
    • 3 rounds or less off correct stoppage round = 35
    • 1 round off correct stoppage round = 40
    • correct stoppage round = 45
    Split Decision or Draw***:

    SD/Draw = 50 points

    * a wide unanimous decision: a decision where all three judges score the fight for one fighter and two or more of the judges' scores are four points or more apart e.g. 116-112, 116-112, 115-112
    * a close unanimous decision: a decision where all three judges score the fight for one fighter and two or more of the judges' scores are three points or less apart and the other is a draw e.g. 115-112, 115-112, 116-112, or 115-112, 115-112, 114-114. (A majority decision is scored as a close unanimous decision.)

    ** a disqualification or retirement will count as a stoppage win.

    *** A split decision: a decision where two judges score the fight for one fighter and the other one - for the other fighter e.g. 115-112, 112-115, 114-113. A split decision should be picked together with a draw: pick "SD/Draw" when you think a fight is truly 50/50 and could go either way. However, if you think A has the slightest edge over B, pick "A UD close".

    Blue riband events - really big fights like Pavlik v. Taylor, Calzaghe v. Hopkins, etc. - will count for twice the points as usual big fights. Scores for those blue riband events get multiplied by two.

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    Please post your picks as follows: e.g.

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    ", if you think Calzaghe will win a unanimous decision over Kessler at a difference of points greater or equal to four points

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    ", if you think Calzaghe will win a decision over Kessler at a difference of points smaller or equal to three points, a majority or split decision.

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    ", if you think Kessler will beat Calzaghe by stoppage, disqualification or retirement in the third round.
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    " if you think the fight between Calzaghe and Kessler will end up a draw or a split decision

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    Anyone can join the league at any time, even late. In order to give late starters a chance to compete fairly, they will start in the middle of the pack, at the median position, out of those who have participated every week.

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    If for some reason you miss a week and you are in the top 25 in the league, you will be allocated the median score for that week. Everyone has 3 lives (will be "saved" up to three times). This, to ensure top pickers are not demotivated by their failure to pick one week.

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    A clean sweep system will be applied for weeks with 5 fights or more. The clean sweep bonus will be 20 points.

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    If, by common consensus, a clear robbery might have occured, a review panel made up of brooklyn1550, kg0208, sean, McGrain and sues2nd will decide whether the result should be overruled for the purposes of our league. Unless they all agree unanimously that it was a robbery, we go by official results.


    Good luck! :good
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    so...huki, you will need to set up a poll each week for the fights coming up next week, so we can all vote whether certain fights should be included or not and whether certain fights should be considered blue riband events or not...you need to plan ahead...use your judgement to decide which fights merit the votes in the first place.

    (I have done this when I was running the league...have a look at the polls I was running, please)

    Make the vote end-date the coming Friday. The 50% majority rule is in place to decide whether a fight is picked for the league and whether it's blue-riband or not.

    :good