ESB's Chinchecker Strikes Again!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zakman, Jul 26, 2008.


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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Cotto didn't get knocked out ... and he rarely showed hurt ... he was busted up but so was Margarito ... if you don't know homeboy ... the corner threw in the towel
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jul 27, 2008
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  2. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Cotto wasnt starched with one punch. He took a beating to the head, shoulders, ribs, arms, hips, etc. Cotto lost because Margarito woudnt stop throwing punches. It had nothing to with his chin.
     
    the_what, Jul 27, 2008
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  3. Jack

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    I think pretty much everyone who said Margarito could win, based that prediction off Cotto's chin being his biggest vulnerability. If you look at my posts on the fight, pretty much every one will have something about Cotto's chin there. I don't think my point was proven however.

    Yes, Cotto was stopped but getting stopped by a guy like Margarito is no proof of a weak chin. He took a sustained beating from round 7 onwards. If his chin was so poor, he would have been stopped in the second, seventh, eigth or ninth.
     
    Jack, Jul 27, 2008
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  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    That's all true - but if he had a solid chin like Margarito he would have been able to take it.

    The point is, the signs were there BEFORE the fight, based on the Corley and Torres fights, that Cotto did not take the greatest shot. I reasoned that he would NOT be able to take the punches from a full-fledged, hard-hitting welterweight like Margarito.

    Cotto's chin is not glass, but like most fighters, it's not granite either. The Corley and Torres fights showed this.

    My essential point is this: When somebody hits the canvas, this is a clear sign that they do NOT have great punch resistance. Fans should take notice of this, because it can determine the outcome of future fights!
     
    Zakman, Jul 27, 2008
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  5. TFFP

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    How do you rate the respective chins of Joe Calzaghe and Kelly Pavlik?
     
    TFFP, Jul 27, 2008
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  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Decent enough - but dentable. Wouldn't be surprised if either of 'em got stopped, but I wouldn't bet on it either. The official rating I'd give is "average."
     
    Zakman, Jul 27, 2008
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  7. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Joe's Is Iron, some of the shots he's taken would put guys out clean.
     
    Max Molyneux, Jul 27, 2008
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  8. TFFP

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    Kevin Mitchell? :patsch

    Wow, you are clearly knowledgable on his career.
     
    TFFP, Jul 27, 2008
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  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    The point is still valid however - Brian Mitchell is nothing special. Calzaghe's chin is decent enough, but he can be hurt.
     
    Zakman, Jul 27, 2008
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  10. TFFP

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    Indeed. I wouldn't exactly have them on par though, considering Pavlik has already been completely on ***** street, and down numerous other times against nobodies in a shorter career.
     
    TFFP, Jul 27, 2008
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  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I wouldn't argue with that at all. Pavlik's chin is definitely the more suspect of the two.:yep
     
    Zakman, Jul 27, 2008
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  12. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Howcome you have Max Baer as Iron chinned yet he was stopped and Kd too?
     
    Max Molyneux, Jul 27, 2008
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  13. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Joe Frazier was dropped early in his career, twice in the first round. Had that happened today he would be considered a china chinned bum. :lol:
     
    the_what, Jul 27, 2008
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  14. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Joe Frazier was dropped early in his career, twice in the first round. Had that happened today he would be considered a china chinned bum. :lol:
     
    the_what, Jul 27, 2008
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  15. andyZOR

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    Zakman lemme see your top ten best chins list by each division today... :D
     
    andyZOR, Jul 27, 2008
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