ESPN 30 for 30 Tommy Morrison

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  1. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It doesn't matter if they were ranked in the top 10 at some point, it matters how they were ranked at the time that Morrison fought them. You were wrong and now your reaching for straws.

    You have no idea what cherrypicking is. I said that Morrison nearly always lost to guys in the top 10, you replied that he beat Foreman and Ruddock who were ranked in the top 10 when Morrison fought them. I disproved this as false.

    Don't make false claims and this wouldn't happen.
     
  3. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Morrison was a fighter and brought it every fight. Nobody can say any different. Very exciting to watch.
     
  4. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His era was probably the most exciting period in HW history for me. Morrison always put on an offensive show. His left hook was second to none. I miss those HW days when you knew someone was guaranteed to get KTFO in almost every fight!
     
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  5. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So the one year in the 1990s that Foreman wasn't rated in the top 10 but he was 3 times afterwards and two times before doesn't make him top 10? Do you know how dumb that sounds?
     
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  6. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Morrison's resume takes a steaming dump on Wilder's.
     
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  7. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He wasn't top 10 when he fought Morrison. That was the statement you made and it was false.
     
  8. RacingBeat

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    90's heavyweights baby! Just another Saturday night...
     
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  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I liked watching him because he had the pop in that hook to upset most fighters but he certainly belongs in the second tier of that scene. Maybe if he'd stayed healthy and went against Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield he'd rate higher. The Mercer fight is the fight I most remember, a bad loss he did come back from to be fair.
     
  10. theanatolian

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    Now we have Ugonoh/Breazeale and Chisora/Whyte as 2 of our most exciting HW match ups in the last couple of years. :hang
     
  11. The Akbar One

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    Those tests are bull****. A meth head, or other type of drug addict will almost always test positive on those tests. Morrison was a meth head, self admitted at the time of the tests. He allegedly tested positive, once or twice, in the face of numerous negative tests, but they refused to release the records of the positive tests to him. It was just the doc saying he was positive, while using a test whose label says the tests can't tell you that. ****ed up for Morrison, and every other person unfortunate enough to get caught in that web of bull****.

    He was an entertaining fighter, and would have done a bit more in his career, although he would have never cracked through that top level.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    You're not using those rankings correctly.

    The first problem is that you need monthly rankings to be sure of where someone ranks.

    The second problem you have is that by the year end of 93 Foreman wasn't ranked, that does not mean that going into the Morrison fight he wasn't ranked.

    The third problem you have is often these rankings are from March of the next year, but a few of the rankings were actual annual rankings as in who the ring deemed to be the best ten fighters of that year.

    Finally the last problem you have is that these rankings are prone to human error, I had to correct some myself and did updates for a few years.

    So whilst the annual rankings are a guide, they aren't an authority.
     
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  13. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    1. That obviously isn't at our disposal right now. Everyone on here goes by yearly rankings even you. You're just changing the goal posts in order to make Morrison look better than he was.

    2. On the same coin that doesn't mean he WAS ranked. Even if he had been it wouldn't matter. That gives Morrison a single win over a top 10 fighter. Big whoop.

    3. Any evidence for the second part of this vague claim?

    4. All rankings are prone to human error. It's all completely subjective.

    No rankings are an absolute authority. It is just commonly accepted that these are the standard. That's pretty obvious.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He would've been emphatically knocked out by Tyson, Bowe, and Holyfield.
     
  15. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Would not have looked out of place in the ring vs these people but as I said the dude was cut short.