ESPN Article on Pavlik/Taylor

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  1. teemo16

    teemo16 Member Full Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3150700

    Actually, I guess it is an AP article that ESPN is running.

    In any case, I'm a bit dismayed by the god-awful reporting in this.
    "Taylor was a heavy favorite in the last fight after two decisions over Bernard Hopkins and wins over Kassim Ouma and Cory Spinks. Even though Pavlik was 31-0 with 28 knockouts heading into their WBC and WBO title bout, he was not considered as strong a contender as some of Taylor's previous victims."

    Um, he was an ever so slight favorite, and I think its safe to say he was considered stronger than Cory Spinks.

    "But Pavlik not only got up, but he also carried the fight to Taylor until, in the seventh round, a massive right landed squarely on Taylor's chin and knocked out the champ."
    This makes it sound like it was a one-punch knockout.

    Anyway, they had some good quotes in the article otherwise but some of the amateurish writing (quoted above) is annoying. I guess thats why I come here
     
  2. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I only check out ESPN for Dan Rafeal - East Side is best I've found so far!!!!
     
  3. Phanekim

    Phanekim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had the fight scored same way as the judges before the KO with taylor ahead by 3 points. Although, I thought Kelly's jab was starting to get really effective.
     
  4. gruuby

    gruuby CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL Full Member

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    I'm not sure if Pavlik can win this one again. I hope so, because watching Tyalor fight can be pretty boring. I think Jermain will be way more motivated this time. So many great fight coming up in 2008!
     
  5. Kostya Zoo

    Kostya Zoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm amazed that Taylor is somehow becoming the favorite after getting KO'd like that.
     
  6. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Yep. I don't understand why people say Jermain will "be more motivated this time". Are you kidding me? Was he not motivated at all for the last fight after going to Mannys Pocono training facility? I agree he will be very motivated, but he was last time too
     
  7. gruuby

    gruuby CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL Full Member

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    I think he was underestimating Pavlik, thought he fought the best and Kelly can't touch him. KO. I'm not saying JT is the favorite, I'm saying that KP was down and almost out in the first fight. Sure, he adjusted which speaks volumes about his talent but it was a close fight nonetheless. I wouldn't write JT off just yet.
     
  8. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do not think Taylor underestimated Pavlik. I think he trained like a mother, had a game plan, and once the fight began and he got hit a couple of times the game plan was forgotten, not on purpose but literally forgotton. Some guys are calm under pressure (Mayweather, Pavlik), others like Taylor have brain freeze and go on autopilot. I see Taylor having a good plan going in next time, and then when he gets hit again, he'll revert to his old self or just go into survival mode. Pavlik, will fight with a plan, make deliberate adjustments as needed, and KO Taylor again.
     
  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Questionable article...

    Anyways, Pavlik TKO6
     
  10. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    yeah that article is wack.

    but KP by KO in 8
     
  11. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Same result

    Pavlik will catch Taylor when he goes straight back

    KO7
     
  12. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't be shocked if this is like one of those disappointing rematches where the guy who won by ko wins easier the second time. it' like the person who was ko'd is hit hard and then loses it, has to be tough to get back in the ring with someone who cleaned your clock.

    then again maybe taylor keeps pavlik down unlike the first fight.
     
  13. lyraus

    lyraus Member Full Member

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    I think this will be a disappoint fight, because I think Taylor will fight scared this time and try and box with Pavlik like he did guys like Spinks, Wright, and Hopkins. He's not gonna want to open up like he did in the first fight. Don't expect fireworks this time. Expect Taylor in his shell losing a boring decision.
     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    true. Odds on Taylor were about 5/6, almost even
    When they say that Pavlik not only got up, but also carried the fight to Taylor, I don't see how it sounds like it was a one punch knockout :huh
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I agree that JT may "fight scared. I don't think that fighting scared would result in a boring decision. I have seen Pavlik fight 6 times, and IMO, figthing scared against him would be the absolute worst thing an opponent could do. If an opponent was not firing back hot and heavy, Kelly would be moving forward throwing the double jab, and brutal combinations along with the occasional lead right. He has enough fire power to split the guard of just about anybody at 160 or 168. He also has enough power to damage a guys arms and shoulders if he goes into a defensive shell. Et, et. JT fighting scared gets blown out in less than 3 rounds.

    Boo