ESPN: Artur Asilbekovich Beterbiev vs Oleksandr Sergeevich Gvozdyk RBR

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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bebop Boxer Full Member

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    Beterbiev ground him down and broke him down. Some brilliant, awkward bodyshots from Beterbiev. Reminds me of the old bare knuckle plexus shots.

    Also, underrated defense from Beterbiev. Not a savant by any means, but Gvodzyk landed less and less frequently as the bout went on, particularly with his jab. Reminds me of those tank Thai fighters.
     
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  2. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    I have to rewatch the fight because I didn't score it until the KO, but just remembering the fight I feel like it was 5:4 for Gvozdyk in the first 9. Plus there was a very close round that I am giving to Beterbiev, so it might be 6:3.
     
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  3. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Scorecards before the stoppage:

    87-84 for Gvozdyk.
    86-85 for Gvozdyk.
    87-83 for Beterbiev.
     
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  4. NasalSpray

    NasalSpray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A few random thoughts

    The arena looked mostly empty on TV, a genuine FOTY and no one buys tickets, it's so strange to me. In the UK this fight would sell 8-9k tickets

    Great fight. Beterbiev is the real deal. I think Bivol swerves him and moves down to 168 maybe.

    I want to see Callum Smith Vs Beterbiev, someone needs to chin the lanky scouse
     
  5. Tramell

    Tramell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "Gvozdyk was ahead on two of the three scorecards entering that fateful 10th round."


    Was the above comment the general consensus, that Beterbiev had to stop him to win?
    Punchstats makes it seem Beter landed more in each round except 3. Claims less than 2 punches landed in 2nd,3rd, 4th & zero landed by Gvozdyk in the 5th.
    161-118.
     
  6. Chuck Norris

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  7. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    I love how everyone reacts when I get a wrong pick, here they come, beating their chests with an accusatory tone, "Ha! You got one wrong, what do you have to say about that?"

    Yeah and? Is that supposed to prove something? We all get picks wrong, yes, even the people gloating about Gvozdyk losing. That's the nature of this sport, if everyone knew how every match was going to play out to a T, we'd all be millionaires wouldn't we? They call betting on sports gambling for a reason, nothing is a sure thing, especially in matches that are literally 50/50, not once did I say there was no possibility that Gvozdyk wouldn't lose by KO. It is what it is.

    All of the people who're beating their chests, have taken it on the chin countless times, most of the times on picks they weren't brave enough to make in public and open themselves up to ridicule, so they really have no room to talk. Regardless, we're just picking who we think will win the way people have been doing for years on end. There's literally billions of wrong picks by people who know far more than most of us. So get down off your high horses.

    This one really gutted me, I've been a big backer of Gvozdyk's on here since 2014, he was the second Educate Yourselves thread I did, I did one on Beterbiev a week or two later. I pegged both of them for greatness. The first thread I did was for Usyk, and third IIRC, was Billy Joe Saunders, back when they were all kind of nobodies to the casual fan. Yeah, I get emotionally invested in certain fighters because I'm not a soulless, heartless automaton like most people now days. It's also pretty hard not to when the fighter you're rooting for seems like such a good guy, and has such talent, skill, grit and will. You have to be kind of dead inside not to. It is what it is. All the gay jokes are real cute though. Meanwhile most of the ones that make them are the gayest ones on here, for certain fighters.

    So, my guy lost, and the guy I use to like, but kind of soured on won. Oh well. I wouldn't have an issue with it or care all that much. But the fickle nature of fans now days, with their obsessive love of 0's, infantile name calling and accusations of someone being a quitter or glass jawed, some even going as far as calling for someone to retire because of one loss is maddening. (Not saying I'm not opportunistically guilty of the same at times) But still, it's damaging to the sport as a whole. Seen through the proper light, tonight should be viewed as a win win, both men's stock went up, they put on a FOTY candidate, the better man on the night won, Gvozdyk showed incredible grit, will, heart and an amazing next level chin. He's an absolute beast of a fighter, and he proved everything I believed him to be tonight. But I'm not naive, and I know morons won't look at it that way. Even though that's the right way to look at it. Which is why I usually react as negatively as I do.

    I know the score, the fallout will be bad, mostly negative, disrespectful, and the childish jockeying for brownie points in some fanboy game of one-upsmanship will commence, and the losing fighter will be slandered, criticized and beaten down for years to come. Because most fans are ****ing assholes.

    So in a fair world, tonight wouldn't mean much, but the world of social media, is never fair, spin doctors and propagandists rule the day and are tearing the soul and enjoyment out of everything. And that is why I get so pissed when someone I like loses.

    But good for Beterbiev, he was the better man tonight. They both fought a hell of a high level masterpiece, they both deserve credit. Both men's stock goes up. Bravo to both.
     
  8. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic New Member Full Member

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    it's because when you get mad you lose your head. you made a post how beterbiev deserves 0 credit for this win.
    So, of course that angers people. but, since you cooled down and give him credit now it's all good.

    You need to take a page from intentionallybutt he admitted to me he was wrong and was super surprised but humble. we can't always be right. you clearly have a passion for boxing but sometimes you lose your head. I think the respect in the build up and the fact Gvosdyk took the fight shows great character. Both men had such respect for eachother. and what happened after the fight? Gvosdyk took his glove off, looked Beterbiev in the eyes and shook his hand, and presumable congratulated him.
     
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  9. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic New Member Full Member

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    i understand the 5-4 score. the wide score for gvosdyk i didnt feel that was the fight. around round 7 I felt the only way gvosdyk could win is ko because he looked to lose steam and Beterbiev had such good stamina. I'm sort of hoping beterbiev doesnt **** hot... his stamina was next level.

    this felt like froch vs bute, where bute was way better technically but the pressure got to him and got to him fast. I didn't think Gvosdyk was as good as people said, I think he would have beat bivol. I NEVER thought he'd beat Kovalev. but I mean if it went past 6. He'd probably win it. and that's still an IF.
     
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    100% Beterbiev is what we always hope the heavyweight champion of the world is. Nothing is wrong with his chin, and it's going to take someone who hits harder than Gvozdyk to stop him. You wish he didn't have that shoulder injury sideline him early in his carer and was a few years younger, but I look forward to watching this destroyer.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Hmm... Kellerman on the mic saying Gvozdyk QUIT. :rolleye:

    Kellerman never had a prime.
     
  12. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t think Gvozdyk quit and I haven’t read Kellerman’s comments but it’s probably fuelled by the fact that Gvozdyk took a time out and turned his back after a legal jab to the midriff.
     
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  13. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure he quit, but after the 9th round I was sure that he won't last much longer. He either was almost completely out of gas already, or he realised that he wouldn't win the fight... :dunno
     
  14. Malph

    Malph Active Member Full Member

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    Ward was spot on with every comment there.
     
  15. ShovelHook

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    Nice one having a terrible way of expressing sarcasm I guess?
     


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