ESPN: Martinez/Cotto talks are off

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  1. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A week after talks opened to match middleweight champion Sergio Martinez with junior middleweight titleholder Miguel Cotto, they came to an abrupt end Tuesday night.
    Lou DiBella, Martinez's promoter, told ESPN.com that Top Rank's Bob Arum, Cotto's promoter, insisted on buying out the Martinez side instead of splitting the revenue on a percentage basis from what would have been a pay-per-view fight in March. DiBella did not say what percentage split he had in mind, but said it would have heavily favored Cotto, the proven PPV performer.
    "The Martinez-Cotto discussions are dead because Bob doesn't want to do any kind of co-promotion no matter what the split," DiBella said.
    DiBella said Arum offered him $2.5 million against an upside of the potential pay-per-view profits. DiBella declined and said he countered by offering to buy out Arum for $5 million against an upside of pay-per-view profits.
    "Bob said no, so pretty much that's the end of the discussion. There's nothing more to discuss," DiBella said.
    Arum, who turns 79 on Wednesday, would not go in the details of their discussions but told ESPN.com, "We couldn't come to terms. I talked to the Cotto people. They wanted particular terms and Lou wasn't agreeable. Lou wanted to do a percentage deal and Cotto didn't want to do a percentage deal. Cotto wanted to do a big number for Martinez plus an upside of the pay-per-view. I do whatever my fighters want. If Cotto wanted to fight Martinez on any particular grounds, as long as I could make some dough, of course, I would do it, not even a question.
    "But I'm not going to tell you what did happen because those things are supposed to be confidential. Lou called and we couldn't make a deal. Period."
    DiBella thought a Martinez-Cotto fight would be a hit. Cotto (35-2, 28 KOs) is a bankable attraction and Martinez (46-2-2, 25 KOs) is red hot and the likely fighter of the year. He is coming off a highlight-reel one-punch knockout of Paul Williams in the second round of their Nov. 20 rematch, which was the second-highest rated fight on HBO this year, trailing only Cotto's junior middleweight title victory against Yuri Foreman in June. Because of Martinez's stature, DiBella said he felt like a percentage deal was appropriate.
    "I am not a paid booking agent. I am a promoter," DiBella said. "Sergio Martinez is not an opponent. He's a champion and right now one of the hottest fighters in boxing. Bob is entitled to take whatever kind of business positions he wants and I am entitled to say no. I went back to [Martinez adviser] Sampson [Lewkowicz] and the fighter and they not only supported my position but insisted on it."
    With no Cotto fight, DiBella said there are two likely options for Martinez, who will probably fight in March. Martinez could fight Sebastian Zbik, who is unknown in the United States but is an interim titleholder and Martinez's mandatory challenger, or rising contender Andy Lee, who fights Saturday and would have to win.
    Arum said with no Martinez fight in Cotto's future, he would attempt to make a rematch between Cotto and Antonio Margarito. In 2008, Margarito stopped Cotto in the 11th round of an all-action welterweight title fight, but the victory was later clouded because of suspicions that Margarito fought with loaded hand wraps, as he tried to do -- and was caught -- in his next fight against Shane Mosley.
    "He'll fight Margarito," Arum said of Cotto. "Margarito is going to get a physical to determine when he can fight. The earlier we can do it, the better."
    Margarito is still recovering from a one-sided thrashing he took at the hands of pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao on Nov. 13.
    "Cotto-Margarito, at the end of the day, that's the fight that everybody wants because that fight would do the most money," Arum said. "The first fight did about 500,000 homes [on pay-per-view] and there's no reason why [a rematch] shouldn't do the same."
    Arum said it could be in May or June. If it is in June, Arum said he hopes to stage it as the first fight at the New Meadowlands Stadium, home of the NFL's New York Giants and Jets in East Rutherford, N.J.
    Cotto has previously said he did not want to fight Margarito again because of his feelings that he cheated in their first fight. However, Arum said Cotto would do the fight.
    "I know so that he is willing to fight Margarito again," Arum said.
     
  2. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks like Cotto/Margo in NYC in June is a pretty much done deal.
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Surprised, I am not.
     
  4. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    I think I'd prefer to see Cotto - Margarito 2.
     
  5. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does somebody know any hitmen???

    Arum needs to die and soon. He is stopping alot of good fights.

    Lopez-Gamboa
    Pac-PBF
    Cotto-Martinez

    Those are all some of the biggest fights that can be made. It seems like all he wants is inhouse fights.
     
  6. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey Saul...whens the last time you went for Cotto in a fight?
     
  7. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Smart move by Miguel and team IMO
     
  8. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Bobfather at it again.
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    well i would love to see how cotto would do against martinez but i prefer him against margarito for a possible redemption win.
     
  10. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Hearns?
    Hatton?
     
  11. ripper13

    ripper13 Active Member Full Member

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    as far as biggest fight, I think Cotto-Margarito will generate more money than a Martinez-Cotto fight
     
  12. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Arum had no real intention of putting Cotto in with a non Top Rank fighter. :deal
     
  13. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah Bob has really monopolized the industry by having half of the good fighters in the world. I hate that these fights are not being made and we get rehashed scenarios (a cotto/margarito fight with the winner to fight little pac - never seen that scenario before, huh?) no new fights are ever made. I love Pac but I really can't stand Arum and what has happened to the sport. Make these interesting fights with different, outside Top Rank, fighters.
     
  14. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who here honestly thought Bob would risk Cotto with Martinez. It was a dead-fight from the moment it was suggested.
     
  15. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto vs Margarito II is not a bad second option.