ESPN P4P Rankings, is this a joke?

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  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    The rest of the world doesn't seem to think as highly of Usyk as this board does.
     
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  2. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes they do, only a certain group of people don't think usyk is impressive. Mostly out of pure jealousy. They have a bias against eastern european athletes both in boxing and in basketball. It is what it is.
     
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  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    No one said not impressed, just not as impressed as this boardt. He's done no more than Crawford has to claim p4p #1. Get your head out of your ass
     
  4. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if Fury was shrunk down to welterweight would he beat Crawford or Spence? That is the point of P4P lists.

    Fury's style is all about being bigger which is the opposite of the criteria needed to be on a P4P list.

    Heavyweights generally have no place in P4P lists, except for special cases such as Usyk.
     
  5. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury has serious skills, he's not just "big". Very few heavies can move like fury, go 12 rounds like fury, switch hit like fury, counter punch like fury, move on the ropes like fury. That being said, I do agree he doesn't belong on a p4p list. Usyk does though because he moved up from CW.
     
  6. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Ever hear of a judge named Byrd—LOL
     
  7. boxinggenuis

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    Same here because Crawford should be number 1.
     
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  8. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Espn's rankings are crappola. Those boys are extremely biased.

    Usyk is #1or #2 easy. He cleared out CW fighting on the road and has taken nearly all the HW belts in his huge upset of Joshua. You better believe if Usyk was from the USA he'd be #1 and these ESPN homies would be licking his ass at every opportunity. He'd be glorified as an ATG.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  10. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is canelo above Bivol?
     
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  11. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Different ways to consider P4P, they aren't transferring spots since they got burned annointing Teofimo as a top P4P guy after the Loma win.

    I can easily see how Canelo is above Bivol because he has close to as many fights against champions as Bivol has fights total.

    But if you make a depth of record argument for Canelo over Bivol, how is Errol Spence above Canelo? A lot of the lesser PBC WW contenders Spence fought are in the same ballpark as the SMW beltholders Canelo dispatched. If you count the win in GGG 2 I consider that better than the Porter win (also very close). KOing Kovalev is better than KOing Ugas. Then Canelo has all this other stuff he's done.

    But if you're going on the eye test, a lot of the list makes no sense. But I'm guessing it was like Mission Control when the eagle landed after they finally got to put Crawford on top and not have that be what people hate most.

    Tldr: ESPN = Evil Sports Propaganda Network
     
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  12. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have you seen the ring ratings recently, you know the bible of boxing and not some mainstream publishing organization with the goal to apply to the casuals?
     
  13. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Fury’s only notable win in the last half a decade is over a guy who he outweighed by 40lbs, which goes against the most basic point of p4p rankings. He doesn’t deserve a p4p ranking unless he truly cleans out the division.

    Also, Crawford and Inoue is one thing but having Spence over Usyk is beyond ridicuolus.
     
  14. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    How is Usyk not even top 5?

    Undisputed CW and unified HW?
     
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  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Bivol is a natural LHW, Canelo is not.