ESPN P4P Rankings, is this a joke?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by FastSmith7, Oct 16, 2021.


  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Agreed. Bivol and Berbetiev would both beat Canelo at LWH.

    At middleweight Canelo beats both IMO.
     
  2. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    ESPN just employ a bunch of casuals, these guys don't know boxing outside the US
     
  3. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Stephen A’s List
     
  4. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Of course it is and so is Dazn’s what else do you expect for corporations like those? There always gonna be biased and they will just say whatever is good for business.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Other than usyk not being in the top 3 I don't have any problems with it. I've seen much worse
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Beterbiev is a bigger version of Canelo.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Spence too high, no way he should be above Clenelo
    Fury shouldn't be on it
    Usyk way way too low, clearly should be #1
    Inoue #2 correct
    Crawford should be #3 but you can make and argument for him to be #2 and Inoue #3 and I wouldn't be too mad about it
    Haney and Stevenson are there but Estrada and Roman aren't despite both being way way more accomplished than both and having fought way better competition

    Taylor isn't there which FTR I don't have a problem with some dropping him based of his last performance. However, many well argue Jermello should be there and if that's the case he should be 1-1 in his last 2 fights because Castano was robbed in the first fight.

    It's comical how much fuss was made about Kambosos having home judges for the Haney fight, and FTR all the officials came from neutral countries and the ref was clearly biased against Kambosos, when all three of the judges for the first Castano and Jermello fight in the US were all American and then after they robbed Castano they stacked the deck with three American judges for the rematch and an American ref.

    Imagine Kambosos, who like Loma when he fought Teofimo and GRJ in the US, fought Teofimo in the US with a home ref and three home judges, had three home judges in Australia who robbed Haney and then they stacked the deck with three more Australian judges the rematch? The outrage would be absolutely deafening from Haney/US fans. Welcome to our world :facepalm:
     
  8. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    I like Haney and he’s earned a spot but he’s a weight bully which counts against you in the PFP. That’s why I have Usyk tops by a long margin. Crawford spent much of his career beating smaller guys as did Taylor. This knocks you down on the PFP list in my opinion. Loma deserves strong consideration for a high rank because he only fights bigger guys. Stevenson is also big for a JLW. When he moves to 135, he will be high on the list when he beats them. Same for Bivol, I’m a huge fan but Canelo is a true SMW. Bivol should be on the list but not tops. Canelo should drop a lot more for being outboxed thoroughly. PFP guys shouldn’t be outboxed by a guy one division up the ladder.
     
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