ESPN: Teófimo Andrés López Rivera vs. Jamaine Ortíz & Keyshawn Davis vs. José Pedraza González RBR

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  1. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Ridiculous, giving rounds for running. Not even a ****ing jab he used. He didnt even jab while he run. He should thank the judges for those cards, ridiculously generous with someone who had no intention at all to win rounds and whose sole intention was not to fight at all.
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    No offense, but you need to learn how to score a fight bro.
     
  3. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Just watched this not knowing the result.I must say i saw it differently to you guys, scored it 114 -114 draw.Admittedly in a lot of the rounds not much happened and were difficult to score.Having said that whilst watching the fight i felt Ortiz was winning and i was pretty surprised when i totalled up my scorecard
     
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  4. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Pathetic fight and another black eye on the sport of boxing. Lopez clearly lost the fight if you care about the rules of boxing. The guys calling for a draw are the same ones who celebrated the cards after the Loma fight. Loma beat Teo more soundly than Teo beat Ortíz in this fight. Lopez lost this fight clearly. Is he legit or is Taylor more shot than anyone suspected? I can’t see Taylor beating any top guys at 140 after this performance. Are southpaws his kryptonite?
     
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  5. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This can be said about people that don’t know how to score fights, if you don’t know how to score fights, don’t score fights.

    You know it’s bad when even company man Tim Bradley disagrees with the decision. Lopez lost.
     
  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Bradley is a moron
     
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  7. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    100%! So if even Bradley is disagreeing you know something is not right.

    Saying that, I have no idea why Bradley is on TV, who likes him???
     
  8. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    I think Teofimo did ALL THE DRUGS God helped Keyshawn give up right before his unhinged post fight interview.
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    There is literally nothing in the rulebook against running.

    And would you look at that! Even compubox says that Ortiz outworked Taylor. How is that possible? Because according to you he just ran and didn´t try to fight at all. Yet he somehow threw more punches than the aggressor who tried to fight and win.
    Huh.

    And want another head scratcher? Ortiz threw more punches than Taylor did vs Lopez.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: I think he took a few deep hits off the bong before he made that ridiculous ring walk
     
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  11. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Another undeserved win by Lopez. He lost that fight worse than he lost the Martin fight and that was bad. Boxing has a corruption problem and is rotten to the core. Idiot fans quickly forget these decisions or applaud them because they favored their guy. This was worse than Ward/Kov 1, worse than Canelo GGG 1, worse than Teo’s fight with Martin. He’s fighting guys who aren’t at the top and still losing. Headcase who will lose the next time he faces a legit challenger with legit judges. They can’t bail him out forever. Total POS
     
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  12. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    There is no head scratcher. Compubox is two guys with a beer pressing buttons whenever they feel like.

    I dont know why people think that compubox is the truth and nothing but the truth, tbh. No freaking idea. Compubox numbers are just an estimation that many many times is completely wrong. I would forbid that ****ing organization, the only thing it does is to mislead people.

    The rules say nothing about running, yes, it is not a foul, if you run and run and run and throw no punches at all like Ortiz did, you are not disqualified, you just lose the fight.
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    As I said, "even compubox says".
    Their accuracy is **** poor to say the least, but they can still count the punches thrown. And Ortiz clearly threw at least as many punches as Lopez. You don´t need to use compubox to see that.
     
  14. HyperionAlpha

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    was watching the fight with my wife. she doesn't watch fights...she was in the room. she said "people pay money to watch this...one guy is running and the other can't do any thing about it?" terrible "fight."
     
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  15. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Ortiz didnt throw as many punches as lopez, as compubox said. And even if the did, that he didnt, his punches were a joke without any intention to hurt at all, just to keep running or try to get out of the clinch. And even if they were not a joke, the fights are not scored by the number of punches connected. And even if you want to score the fight by the number of punches and with compubox, López connected more punches than Ortiz. It just makes no sense at all.

    Most of the rounds couldnt be decided by clear punches because it was a fight with about 20 punches per round (counting both fighters), something absolutely ridiculous and due to Ortiz not having the least intention to fight. Once it happens, in order to decide the round, you have to take into account ring generalship and effective agression, and even if Lopez's agression was not very effective Ortiz's agression was non-existent at all.

    I insist that giving more than 2 rounds to Ortiz is very difficult.
     
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