ESPN: Teófimo Andrés López Rivera vs. Jamaine Ortíz & Keyshawn Davis vs. José Pedraza González RBR

To be fair, scoring a fight it doesnt matter at all who is the champion. The problem was that ortiz didnt throw at all. Had he been the champion he would have lost anyway.

 

I've watched the video again, Ortiz is such a disgrace that even in his highlights video he spends most of the time running without throwing. Disgusting.

The discussion in this forum should be if he should be paid or not, easy as that. And my opinion is that he should not be paid, since he signed a contract to exchange money for fighting, and he refused to fulfill his part of the contract. He didnt have the least intention to fight at all, so I dont see why he should be paid for a service that he didnt deliver. Plus he stole an hour of my life, **** him.

 

I know it doesn't matter who is champ when it comes to scoring. I'm refering to all the people crying about the running. Why is Lopez chassing him.

If they both just stands there and look at each other then Ortiz can not win the belt. It is a draw. Ortiz at this point has to engage Lopez. Lopez is the champ. The old saying in that you have to take it from the champ is exactly this. The champ has to just stand there and if you do nothing he retains his title. Lopez did not have to go chasing the title. It is his to lose. Make Ortiz come to him to take it.

 

Yes, you are right there. But probably López considers himself a professional fighter who wants to fulfill his part of the contract, to offer a fight to the boxing fans in exchange of money. While ortiz is a ****ing disgrace who should see his purse withheld.

 

How many fighters will accept fighting with ortiz after this fight? I mean, how many figthers willing to make money.

If you want to sell tickets and to have viewers so that some day you can be a PPV fighter, would you accept a fight vs Ortiz?

Not even drunk.

Noone in the business wants to be considered a scammer, at least if they want to make more money.

 

Oh, I didn´t know we scored fights differently based on who is holding a championship belt.
Do you mind sharing with us the official scoring criteria? I would love to read how the champion gets a handicap and how the challenger has to take the belt.
Do the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO have this magical rule written anywhere?
What about the commissions? NYSAC, BBBofC, JBC or the ****ing Philippines Games & Amusement Board... do they have this rules written somewhere?

 

Where the helll did I say we scored it differently?

I am talking about Lopez not needing to chase after Ortiz.

 

Right the hell there.

 

You are right, but we are so used to people saying that the champion has an edge in the scorecards that we didnt see your point.
Your point is pefectly fine and right.

Had teo done nothing, zero punches would be connected, it would be a draw and hence he would retain the title. So he didnt need to chase ortiz.

But I think that if that happens the referee warns both fighters for not fighting, and can even stop the fight. It happens quite often in the amateurs, I don't recall it in the pros, though.

 

Who cares what Ortiz does in the future. This is the complaint that he was running. Again please explain to me why Lopez had to chase him? Because if Lopez just stood in the middle of ring Ortiz would light him up?

 

If we talk about the belt only, he doesnt HAVE TO.

But if we are talking about selling tickets and PPV he has to. You cannot be seen by the fans as a scammer. You need people wanting to watch your fights if you want to make money.

But yes, you are right.

 

So where in that statement is the special scoring? If Lopez just stands there and Ortiz does nothing it is a draw , Lopez retains is belt. There is no Special scoring there.That was all Lopez had to do. Make Ortiz come to him. He didn't have t chase Ortiz to try and win a belt.

 

Yes all fighters want to excite the crowd so fans would want to see them again. What Lopez did last night put people to sleep. If Chasing didn't work stop. What is plan B.

 

But Bad theyre VEGAS judges!!! Don't you always get one clown put a ludicrous scorecard up . Flks complain about that one & ignore the other two which were almost as bad. Lopez was going to get the win regardless.
Really Ortiz literally boxed his ears off. Lopez just chased him round the ring throwing wildly but landing nothing effective
You know Lopez fought that fight like Floyd would have done if Floyd could punch. The same people that claim Floyd is TBE & never been beaten are the same one dissing Lopez for boxing. He was making Lopez look like a clumbsy oaf. If Ortiz didn't deserve to win that fight then Floyd would have a heck of a lot of one sided losses himself. Until they clean up that cess pit called Vegas boxing will just continue to sink lower & lower