ESPN: Teófimo Andrés López Rivera vs. Jamaine Ortíz & Keyshawn Davis vs. José Pedraza González RBR

Yikes. That comment is cringe AF.

 

Just watched the fight, wish I hadn't....it's an hour of my life I'll never get back.

Can you really blame Ortiz for boxing to orders? Yes he was on his scooter the whole fight, yes he made the fight practically unwatchable but boxing is about not getting hit and nicking rounds in championship fights......Ortiz banked the first 3 straight, the 4th practically nothing happened (10-10), gave away the next 3 and then came back and won 3 of the last 5. I had Ortiz winning by 1 round but I don't think I'll ever watch another one of his fights again.

 

But its THE TRUTH !! I know you Floyd fans don't like it but Ortiz fought & really won like Floyd would have if he stopped running occasionally Look at the stats Ortiz landed more scoring punches Lopez was punching air

 

You clearly made the case that Ortiz had to be the aggressor.

If I am wrong, I do apologize. I have had 1,5 bottles of wine.

 

Ortiz landed punches, in fact according to punchstats he out-landed Lopez... by two punches, which were jabs since Lopez landed more power punches.

It was a close fight, and I think it could have been a draw, or 7-5 either way, but I can see why this amateur style of boxing doesn't get rewarded by pro judges.

 

The rules apply to both fighters, not just the favorite to win.

Neither Ortiz or Lopez were had effective aggression.

Ortiz landed two more punches than Lopez according to punch stats, but the better punches were landed by Lopez and he also landed a few more power punches than Ortiz, so there's that if you have to give it to one of them.

Ortiz also missed at a higher rate, 1%, but higher nonetheless?

The fight was very close, I called a draw as soon as it was over. But I can't get mad at 7-5 either way.

 

Yea, you don´t judge fights via compubox. And you actually score the rounds individually.

 

I need to actually watch this fight. Fell asleep in round 2 and fast forwarded around before work.

Seemed like a canelo vs Lara type of fight

 

Exactly. If you scored using compubox Ortiz wins. But you have to consider Ring generalship, effective aggression, clean punches, defense.

 

That is not how it works. Ortiz was effectively boxing his ears off, so that gives him the advantage over Teo's ineffective aggression. You don't just compare their aggression and favor Teo and give him credit. His aggression was basically irrelevant for most of the fight because he was just sitting air.

 

Ortiz threw just as many punches as Haney threw vs Loma, and twice as many as Shakur did vs Santos. The idea he was not fighting is just rubbish. Its called boxing.

 

Personally I saw them fight on equal terms.

They both missed a lot of punches. They both failed to fully engage.

In the Lomachenko fight Ortiz had no issues taking the fight to Loma. In fact in much of the fight he was trying to push him back and even bully him.

Against Teofimo it was a different story, Teofimo's aggression kept Ortiz on the backfoot, and gun shy.

One fighter couldn't cut off the ring, the other fighter fought to survive is the way I look at it.

 

Thats not the whole story bro. Throwing is one thing, landing is another thing, and what and how the punch lands is even another thing.

Haney not only landed more punches against Lomachenko than Ortiz on Lopez, but Haney's punches were thrown and landed with intention.

Ortiz was just trying to make contact, and run.. had Ortiz outlanded Lopez by 60 punches, which would be an average of 5 more punches per round, perhaps you can make a good argument that despite his punches being weak he dominated... but the case is the punches landed were on par with what Lopez landed.
The quality of punches was completely different.

 

You don't even understand who the ring general in the fight was. You think it was the guy running forward swinging at air for 12 rounds.

Thrown and landed with more intention? You are literally just imagining scoring criteria and assuming a fighters intent of a punch, Its even funnier considering Haney is feather fisted himself.