ESPN: Top Prank-Arum disingenuous on picking Pac's foe

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Charlie here you go with long winded posts saying nothing... Since clawing his way to the top Mayweather has faced the opponent the fans wanted to see. In each case I listed it was not about who they fought under it was about who the fighter was. You missed the point as usual.

    Pac WON'T do the USADA drug test. He won't. You claiming he will just shows the depth of your *******ation. Point to ONE source that says Pac will do full USADA drug testing. You can't. Same way you can't justify with numbers why Pac deserves a 50/50 split. You are all emotion and no content.

    Here you go. No test is 100% it is about deterrent. So if Manny has the resources? Go on TV, say you will drug test, and get that a$$ whipped. He won't though because he is too scared to be found out. The rest of what you said is just some BS you made up.:gsg

    Arum just got caught lying and you STILL blame Mayweather. :pukke
     
  2. paulcris

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    Marg is a better fight for Pac than Cotto but Pac should not agree to fight in Mexico.

    Bradley, Berto is a better fight than both of them.
     
  3. bucktoof

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    agree with the article. if floyd wants to take vacation for the rest of the year, pac should fight bradley, a poor man's floyd that can help pac get adjusted style wise.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok....:lol: you sure respond A LOT to "nothing". Which is actually more telling about you than me or my "nothing" posts..:rofl

    Of course Floyd has faced on his rise fighters fans wanted to see. he had to make a name for himself and pay his dues. Manny has done the same and is consistantly doing so.

    The fighters are who they are.....if you are tying to imply that Floyd fought guys who were "BETTER" then that is your obviously BIASED opinion and I can't help you there. But your stance is not supported by facts. The resume of Floyd and manny can be compared all day long and Manny's resume will support the fact that he has faced stiffer opposition more consistantly as a prize fighter. No matter how creative you get in trying to spin your opinion.

    You fail to realize that PAC did agree to testing but didn't allow Floyd to dictate the entire process. So Floyd found a way out. He came up with the demands to create a situation where the fight would be put into question but you can defend him all day long....his actions over shadow your passionate attempts to justify his actions.

    Of course it's a deterrent fool!:rofl But Guys like Floyd and Manny are not the AVERAGE ATHELTE who would be DETERRED by stricter testing measures. The average athlete would avoid doping with USADA measures b/c their ability to beat the tests are far less than that of men with the resources avialable to them.

    You should just ask the question why is Floyd asking for the tests to begin with?

    Leonard got caught lying himself saying that there were no negotiations when Floyd's promotional team indicated numerous times that they were....and close to coming to an agreement.
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tim is nothing like Floyd....not even remotley except for being black and american.
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On that we can agree.

    It is still a fight that I would be more excited about than Margarito.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dude you are really stuck in a fantasy about this drug testing. You are pontificating on complete nonsense.

    What did Pac agree to? Say it explicitly. What?

    You can't say it because the ONLY thing that would matter for Pac to agree to is... full USADA random testing.

    No test. No fight. That is all. That is it.
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No doubt!:good It's really just this entire Floyd/PAC mess that we are on opposite sides of the spectrum Bald.

    I can't see that Tim would be more of an exciting fight for Manny or Floyd than Marg.

    Tim is a bit over hyped at the moment. And at 147 he did not impress. At least not for me. He did well but against a good but untested 147 banger. The style Tim has won't make a more exciting fight than Tony would b/c Tony is more durable and unrelenting. Tim would in my opinion get starched by PAC or Floyd within in the distance where Marg could go 12 hard rounds.
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The fantasy isn't about the drug testing bro. It's the foundation that Floyd based his demands that are a fantasy. Floyd didn't have any cause to accuse then demand these tests NOR does it indicate he really wanted to fight Manny.

    The entire USAD testing measures while better than the current measures isn't anymore successful in catching those who dope. Only a fraction of USADA athletes that go to they olympics are caught with any illegal drugs in their system...MOST of who they catch have THC and less than a percent are caught with roids or peds.

    It just a very creative way for Floyd to avoid having to say the words "I don't want to fight Manny". The fight would have been done already if Floyd was as confident as he has been the majority of his career. He's using the PEDs accusations about Manny as a way to get out of facing him. I don't agree with that at all.....if you don't want to fight...DON'T FIGHT. But don't try to damage anther mans rep b/c you are too puss to say what you really feel.
     
  10. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. di tullio

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    who the hell are dwayne wade and chris bosh?
     
  12. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

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    Pacquaio vs martinez has a nice ring to it , arum wouldnt put his crown jewel in a fight like that though. although a can see dibella & martinez not asking for a huge amount of money for the fight either
     
  13. Bazooka

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    So what if Arum has total control of the promotion, we tried to get a fight with Floyd that didnt work out, Manny cant waste much more time its time to move on and thats what they are doing.
    UFC controls their own promotion and their own ****ing belt as does Strikeforce, WEC etc...
    right now the issue isnt Arum he is doing his job as a promoter the issue is Floyd who left the biggest grossing fight in the history of the sport on the table.
     
  14. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    is this true, lol....clottey got **** on that fight...good thing arum paid him off, i mean, paid him well
     
  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone who fights Manny or Floyd gets paid off......or well..:smoke