ESPN: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jose Pedraza & Isaac Dogboe vs. Emanuel Navarette RBR.

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    The 2010 version does.
     
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  2. Serge

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    Here's my post from the Twink vs Pedraza RBR thread. Now the important thing to remember here is I knew nothing about Pedraza then and I'm pretty sure I'd never seen him fight before, but despite that I still thought he fought like a complete moron and I had absolutely no idea at the time he actually possessed considerable skills and boxing ability, which I only discovered after seeing him put on a clinic against Beltran. After seeing him against Beltran I was like is there some Charlo twin shenanigans going on here? Pedraza has an identical twin brother who can't box for toffee who deputizes for him sometimes, right? lol

     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: no arguments from me on that one
     
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  4. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Also a good point.
     
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  5. Chuck Norris

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  6. Serge

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    Legal ESPN extended highlights link

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  7. FastSmith7

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    They're already in full flow calling Loma a bum.
     
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  9. nervousxtian

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    I mean no real offense to Raymundo Beltran.. but he's never been more than a B-Level fighter. A guy that overachieved honestly.. and Pedraza fought a 37yr old Raymundo Beltran.

    Davis is levels above Beltran. Pedraza couldn't do the same things against Davis he could against Beltran because they aren't the same level.
     
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I like loma but this is ridiculous. Most complete fighter ever?? How long have you followed boxing?
     
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  11. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's the most complete of the last 10-15 years for sure.
    Loma can end his career as a top 10 ATG if he beats Mikey, Tank and Berchlet + a few decent scraps. If Crawford and Loma ever fight and Loma wins the fight he could be argued to be top 3 ever but Crawford has 22cm reach over Loma which is huge.
     
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  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No he has not. He cant fight at all ranges.
     
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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Stop it. Even with those wins he wouldnt be a top 3 atg. Theres no way in hell he would surpass 1. Srr 2. Armstrong 3. Ali it's not happening.
     
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  14. BCS8

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    I struggle to think of anybody who has a more rounded skillset. You may find guys who do individual aspects better but I can't really think of anybody who brings it all together like Loma.

    Edit: talking last 10-15 years now.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    Sadly I have to agree. Boxing is simply ridiculously deep when you start talking p4p atg's. Frankly even a guy like Ali doesn't rank that high p4p. Loma may have outrageous skills but he doesn't have the time left (imo) to really build up a resume that cracks the upper p4p echelons.
     
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