Espn2 alert!! They'll talk about pac not fighting afro fighters!

to me it sounds like your basking in it, if anything you seem to be the one thats caught up on race then anybody. and by the way, for all the un-educated such as yourself "AFRO-AMERICAN" is politically incorrect. why can't you just "AMERICAN AMERICAN" like a normal person??

 

I ain't even trying to reason with them. I am smashing them with the truth!

Man I have let this BS racist bashing of Mayweather slide too damned long. I keep trying to take the high road on these mofos. F that. I am going in on them.

Every hate thread started? I am going to shut it down with venom!

 

Give em hell Slick.:good

 

Actually, I'm taking your entire catalog of BS into consideration; not just this post alone.

And for you to consider me a ******* means that you are entirely ignorant of where I stand as a fan of boxing.

Your long trend of laughable posts reflect the fact that you undeniably and blindly support and parade black fighters in favor of those of another ethnicity. Is it wrong of you to favor black fighters? Of course not, but don't expect anyone to take what you say seriously. You're just as bad as the Filipinos who do the same with Pacquiao (or any fighter from Roach's stable).

The manner in which you post seems to indicate that you at least possess some intellect, so for the life of me, I don't understand how you can't see this.

 

Are you ****in serious? You are aware there are WAAY more highly ranked Latino fighters then so called Slick Black fighters in those weights? So if Floyd went out of his way to NOT fight them, of course it would look bad. Get a ****in grip man...THINK things through before you let your emotions post for you. atsch

 

I don't think Shane Mosley has been a "slick" fighter since he was a lightweight. Cotto, of all people, outslicked him. Berto isn't particularly slick, either. He's stylistically very similar to Mosley.

The rise of the "slick black fighter" at Pacquiao's weights didn't really coincide with the rise of Pacquiao in those same weights. The primes of Judah and Forrest came before Pacquiao hit 135+ and Bradley and Alexander are only now starting to get the attention necessary to be worthy of Pacquiao, but they have unfinished business with each other and Khan first.

Sure, you could name some obscure black fighter or two who you think deserved a shot at Pacquiao, like Zahir Raheem, but you could just as easily say that about Joel Casamayor, and I don't see anybody saying Pacquiao is avoiding Cuban fighters. You simply can't fight *everybody*. So you make your decisions strategically.

I'll say this - if Alexander or Bradley goes on to win this little unofficial tournament at JWW, and if Pacquiao hasn't retired or fought Mayweather by then and declines to fight either of them, then I'll be all on board with this theory. Until then, I don't see much evidence.

 

John David Jackson was the one that brought this nonsense up in the first place...

 

Parade of BS. Please. I am happy to debate and admit a guy has a point.

Say dumb crap elevating Pac at the expense of the truth, reason, or Mayweather? I will attack you. I don't go reading all of your posts.

What parade of Black fighters do I support? I explained to you that I don't blame Pac for ANYTHING below 135 since Mexicans are the dominant competitors there. The only person with a solid case is Zahir Raheem. My beef and it seems Hopkins' is, 140, 147, and 154 Pac has continued to do it where Black Americans are represented.

IMHO Nonito Donaire is a fast slick technical fighter. So is Martinez. So is Dmitry Pirog. You are ignorantly taking my posts out of context and OVER "racializing" them to try to dismiss it on some "Black support" crap when you say NOTHING about "Mexican style" or "Irish boxing" threads. Hypocrite.

As for intelligence I have laid out clear and cogent arguments for Black fighters Pac ducked. I even give Pac a pass at 140 because Bradley and Alexander's stars were still rising. Refute them!

Zahir Raheem
Shane Mosley (right after Cotto)
Floyd Mayweather
Paul Williams

 

Prance your reading comprehension is below sub standard. i advise you to read his statement again.

 

Pac had unfinished business with Erik Morales, Barrera and JMM. Men of far greater importance than Raheem at the time.

Zahir Raheem destroyed his career by stinking up the place with Freitas, in which after that crap of a fight, NOBODY would have paid money to watch him anymore.

After Cotto, Mosley had a match with Berto, which is why Pacquiao never picked him after he beat Cotto down and went with Clottey (after the first FMJ bout negotiations messed up). The only reason why Floyd even got to Mosley before Pacquiao did was because Berto pulled out.

FMJ, it's still a freaking chicken game and Pacquiao's been chasing that fight since after he destroyed Hatton.

Paul Williams is a freaking middleweight with a reach advantage greater than that of the Klitschko brothers, that even FMJ doesn't fancy fighting.

 

And even at 140-154, you'd be hard picked to find more than 2 fighters not named FMJ who you would think can even match up to Pacquiao the way he is now, black, brown, yellow, blue, green, whatever.

 

I wouldn't call either Mosley or Williams slick, to be honest. Mosley was a little bit slick back at lightweight or when compared to the Mexican fighters he's feasted on, but if you want to see what slick is like in comparison to Mosley, see his fight against Vernon Forrest. If you want to see what slick is like in comparison to Williams, see his fight against Martinez.

Don't be under any such illusion that this so-called achilles heel of angles, speed and constant movement would be an even remote part of Williams' or Mosley's fight plan against Pacquiao.

In terms of honest-to-goodness "slickness", it's really just Floyd. And it's not like Pacquiao is ducking Floyd. Ducking testing, maybe, but definitely not ducking Floyd.

 

**** off troll... I know what I said and what he wrote. It made no sense because Floyd could NOT have ducked all the Latino fighters in those weights, since as I stated, they were many of the top ranked fighters. Now how about you get Pimp's dick outta your mouth and put Floyd's back in there and STFU...:roll:

 

Zahir - wasn't even a title holder one fight after beating Morales, nor did he offer anything attractive in terms of real notoriety.

Mosely - yes, I would have rather seen Pacquiao vs. Mosley INSTEAD of Cotto, because after Cotto's fight with Clottey(which you can look up my post history), I stated that Cotto was done and that he would be ripe for the taking for Pacquiao.

Floyd Mayweather - be real. There has been BS on both parts and it seems that neither of them want much to do with the other. The fans want the fight more than either of them do, and as far as I'm aware of, whenever it seems that the stipulations were agreed upon, yet another ****** wrench was thrown into the negotiations.

Paul Williams - The guy is about 6'2". I never held it against Mayweather for not fighting Williams, so neither will I hold it against Pacquiao.


With all that said, my problem with your arguments are not that they are unfounded, rather that you completely and hypocritically turn a blind eye to the fact that Mayweather has done much of the same and worse because of how he runs his mouth without backing it up.

Most notably after his flattening of Hatton when Merchant asked him about fighting Cotto. Mayweather replied, "I'll retire from boxing, I won't let boxing retire me".

I will never forget the disappointment I felt as a fan of boxing at that moment. While Roach and Arum may have an ulterior motive for choosing Pacquaio's opponents, I truly believe Pacquiao himself would fight whoever they put in front of him. Mayweather, however, being his own boss CHOOSES himself not to fight certain opponents; and then makes up BS excuses why he doesn't do it.

So the fact that you sit there harping on Pacquiao, who as a fighter, is truly hard to fault in terms of mentality, skill, and entertainment; yet you completely turn a blind eye to the hypocritical nature of some of Mayweather's doings...I find that to be gross and bias.

 

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Correct me if I'm right, but Pac vs Diaz was before Pac vs De la Hoyle. Here's my proof to back up my previous post. If Shane did try to make the fight right after Pac beat Diaz, then it's only revealing that Pac ducked not once but twice. By the way 6:53 is where your find the proof.