ESPN2 FNF: Javier Fortuna vs. Luis Franco & Kermit Cintron vs. Jonathan Batista RBR

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  1. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't have an issue with two of the scores...Or the final result. But Chris Ritter needs to stop judging fights immediately.
     
  2. Redwood

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    What started out as a high level technical fight between two very skilled fighters, albeit low on action, really deteriorated in the last 2-3-4 rounds into a hold-and-wrestlefest, mainly instigated by Franco, who clearly gassed in the late rounds. I scored the fight for Fortuna, 8-2 rounds, 98-92 rounds, giving Franco the 2nd and 4th rounds, same scorecard as Teddy Atlas except for the 2nd round. Respect to Franco for most of the fight showing good movement and defense to negate Fortuna's explosive attack, but as he tired Fortuna clearly got on top in the fight, although even then Fortuna was landing mostly single straight lefts and rights, no combos, no flashes of his great power.

    EDIT: OMG HORRIFIC job by the 3 official judges!!! I agree this was a difficult fight to score for at least a few rounds, but OMG the 99-91 Franco judge needs to be IMMEDIATELY suspended and brought in for review, and then FIRED!!! Add Miami, Oklahoma to the long list of venues with overmatched, crap judges!!!
     
  3. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't understand why they even have judges any more. They should just have some mysterious guy in a hooded mask come into the arena & hand an envelope to the announcer, then slink off into the darkness from whence he came.

    - At least it would be dramatic.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    As bad as it was, that wasn't even Chris Ritter's worst scorecard of the night... 99-88 Cintron over Batista? :barf
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :lol:
     
  6. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Franco card was too wide, but it really was one of those fights. The Fortuna rounds were scored on 2-3 good punches landed and I though Franco outboxed him in many of the other rounds. Whatever.

    You noticed the FNF crew didn't even acknowledge the last time they showed fan voting which had it wide for Franco.
     
  7. IronJawSouthPaw

    IronJawSouthPaw My style is impetious. Full Member

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    I'm not mad at the end result. I didn't want to see Franco or any fighter for that matter suffer back to back questionable losses.
     
  8. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :deal

    No doubt that was no "Hagler/Hearns" out there, but IMO them sitting there just bitching that the fight sucked the whole time didn't help a damn thing.

    Just makes me wonder about if it was a "new" fan watching, how they would come away from that, where it didn't have to be THAT bad, you know?

    I've def seen WORSE fights than that one was :yep
     
  9. Stefan Johnson

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    This FNF show sucked.

    First of all, refs in boxing need to put an end to holding!

    Secondly, no way was Fortuna-Franco a draw. It was a crappy fight, but a clear win for Fortuna.
     
  10. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :rofl

    I wonder in this internet age, where they can have us vote and show our scores anyways, why not have the "Fan Vote" as atleast one of the judges?

    That would be cool as hell.

    :think....second thought though, they could show us whatever they want (meaning what would supposed to be our votes), and we would never know the difference...:!:
     
  11. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :yep

    But even though it really did suck, IMO it was made worse than it had to be by Ted and Joe sitting there bitching the whole time that it sucked.

    It just instantly sets a tone, like said I've seen worse fights.....

    Maybe if they were actually trying to make the best of it, it may have been even slightly better.....:conf
     
  12. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only thing Teddy likes (loves) is hearing his own voice. He doesn't really like boxing, he only likes it when he gets to rant and rave against it. I don't know why ESPN bothers with him when it's only us degenerates watching who can see through his agenda. I still remember before the Pac-Cotto fight they had him on there with some clueless ESPN reporters who brought up Pac's accomplishments, Teddy just cut them off and went on a tirade about how the 1920's fighters were god among men and the current generation is ****, great endorsement for the sport. Tessitore is just as bad being his yes-man and he loves to rant and rave too. F-them both.
     
  13. Stefan Johnson

    Stefan Johnson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, you've a point . . . they bitched most of the time. They get paid to be there. The least they could do is act like they want to be there!

    The only decent part was the studio interview with Ray Mancini. (Need to read his book.)
     
  14. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Excellent points, and goes to what I was saying too about his bitching about the fights being SOO TERRIBLE tonight......great endorsement for the sport and I'm sure any new fans tuning in loved it and will be back for more...:!::roll:
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Boring fights.................

    Somebody put everyone's lights out................