ESPN2 FNF: Roberto Garcia vs. Norberto Gonzalez & Kamil Laczszyk vs. Daniel Diaz RBR

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Stupid Tessitore. :lol: After the scores were read he started musing "Wow! How critical was that point deduction? Those...scorecards for Garcia...um..." - before trailing off with some rambling about how close the bout was as he realized the deduction actually didn't affect the outcome.
     
  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Got to admit Norberto & Roberto sound almost exactly alike... lol
    (Especially after getting punched in the head for 10 RD's)
     
  3. HamburgBuam

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    What a Robbery! Gonzalez was the clear winner.
     
  4. Golden Boy 360

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    No, he wasn't.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :huh

    Which rounds were clearly his, besides the 1st and 2nd?

    There were a couple of rounds where Gonzalez won about 2:30 of them but got very badly hurt late, which Garcia stole.

    Even if you give him those ones, however, that still makes it very close for Gonzalez, no wider than 96-93. (on my card anyway)
     
  6. Golden Boy 360

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    Even if this fight was close I think the right man got the decision. He landed the bigger shots and closed the show.
     
  7. HamburgBuam

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    Sorry, but you cant win a fight with one punch in a round. Gonzalez was landing a lot combinations on Garcias head. To much to steal the rounds with one left hand.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    OK, this argument could apply to the eighth or the third (which I actually didn't have Garcia stealing, and gave to Gonzalez) and maybe fourth.

    Otherwise - be specific, which rounds besides the 1st and 2nd were clearly Gonzalez's based on clean effective punching? :think

    He was busier all throughout, but a lot of his flurries had nothing on them and were just pumped into the air or Garcia's arms.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This main event was a joke. It amazes me how terrible espn cards are. I know it's all about their small budget but man.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

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    I didn't think it was terrible, but must admit the Coldwell TV card in the UK earlier today was about five times better on probably less than a fifth of the budget. Both overall and main event versus main event.

    (and that isn't even real 'TV', but a free computer and phone video streaming app provided at the expense of the event promoter...)
     
  11. Redwood

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    I scored the main event for Gonzalez, 5-5 rounds, 95-94 points, giving Garcia rounds 4-6 and 9-10, and factoring in the 1-point deduction against Garcia in the 8th. Gonzalez won the first 3 rounds by moving forward, pressing the action, outworking and outlanding Garcia. Garcia did land a hard shot at the end of the 1st, but to me it wasn't nearly enough to win that round. The third round was closer, but I thought Gonzalez carried it with his workrate. Garcia stole the 4th round in the last 30 seconds by landing several hard punches. Garcia clearly won the 5th and 6th as he took his turn moving forward and pressing the action while Gonzalez retreated, in fact Gonzalez looked like he took the 6th round off. Gonzalez rallied in the 7th, again pressing the action and outworking Garcia. The 8th round was the closest, Gonzalez did more work but Garcia landed the harder punches. (I thought the 1-point deduction against Garcia in the 8th was justified, except I don't recall the referee ever warning Garcia.) Garcia obviously dominated the final two rounds. Even though I scored the fight for Gonzalez, I was not surprised Garcia got the decision, as I thought the judges might have swung any of three rounds (1st, 3rd, 8th) to him for his superior power, landing a few hard punches at key times. Good main event, close fight, not a robbery.
     
  12. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean terrible in that none of the fighters that matter seldom fight on espn. The Holt/Peterson fights are truly exceptions. With the exposure you get on espn, you would think boxing people would figure out a way to peek more interest instead of putting on tomato cans like Gonzalez on the main event. But i don't watch almost every fight like you so maybe my criticism of the quality of the espn cards are a bit harsh as i don't follow the sport religiously. I'm more of the hbo and showtime fan. Not much beyond that.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Everyone who ever fought on HBO or Showtime had to begin somewhere; everybody starts in the minor leagues before working their way up. Almost everybody starts off in non-televised 4-rounders and earns their stripes through stages of development. Even if you can't appreciate boxing at lower than elite/championship level for itself, there is the possibility that you could see the next star coming up, watch their progression, and have a better idea of what their strengths and weakness are by the point they are competing on the big stage.

    The main event wasn't a great example of that aspect, since it was two veterans and guys who lost when they stepped up and have fatal flaws ensuring they nearly always will lose when stepping up that much - but on paper it was good matchmaking (especially with Garcia being a late sub) because it looked promising for a highlight-reel KO.

    The co-feature, though, is that kind of informative viewing where, if Laczszyk is lucky enough to challenge for a title in a couple of years, it lets you remember back to when he fought Diaz and decide what you think his chances are, positive or negative. (ie, "Wow, he looked really beatable even at that level...:think" or "He really hung in there and finished strong in the last round... :think")
     
  14. klion22

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    True of course but espn is such a huge platform for boxing that it could attract more viewers (even amongst hardcore fans like myself who don't watch most shitty espn cards) by having more of the stars featured. It's not smart business. When you have such a large potential for viewers and are trying to give the sport a boost, the last thing you want to do is feature c/d level fighters.
     
  15. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Touche. Boxing is your passion isn't? You seem to follow everything. Boxing was never my first love (basketball is) so i guess i just don't have the pure love for it as i do with basketball. When did u start following the sport?