ESPN's 50 Greatest Fighters of All-Time!!!

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  1. Club Fighter

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    50. Mike Tyson [url]Video[/url]
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    49. Erik Morales
    48. Floyd Mayweather Jr. [url]Video[/url]
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    47. Bernard Hopkins
    46. Roy Jones Jr. Bonus video: [url]Brian Kenny on Jones' place on the list[/url]
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    45. Carlos Monzon
    44. Pernell Whitaker [url]Video[/url]
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    43. Marco Antonio Barrera
    42. Alexis Arguello
    41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
    40. Evander Holyfield
    39. Oscar De La Hoya
    38. Larry Holmes [url]Video[/url]
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    37. Thomas Hearns
    36. Eder Jofre
    35. Marvin Hagler
    34. Emile Griffith
    33. Ruben Olivares
    32. Jose Napoles
    31. Billy Conn [url]Video[/url]
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    30. Terry McGovern
    29. Sandy Saddler
    28. Jake LaMotta [url]Video[/url]
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    27. Ezzard Charles
    26. Joe Frazier [url]Video[/url]
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    25. Marcel Cerdan
    24. Julio Cesar Chavez [url]Video[/url]
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    23. Jimmy McLarnin
    22. Barney Ross [url]Video[/url]
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    21. Tony Canzoneri
    20. George Foreman [url]Video[/url]
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    19. Stanley Ketchel
    18. Archie Moore [url]Video[/url]
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    17. Mickey Walker [url]Video[/url]
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    16. Gene Tunney [url]Video[/url]
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    15. Jimmy Wilde
    14. Rocky Marciano [url]Video[/url]
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    13. Harry Greb
    12. Sugar Ray Leonard [url]Video[/url]
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    11. Joe Gans
    10. Sam Langford
    9. Jack Dempsey [url]Video[/url]
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    8. Jack Johnson [url]Video[/url]
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    7. Benny Leonard
    6. Roberto Duran [url]Video[/url]
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    5. Willie Pep [url]Video[/url]
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    4. Joe Louis [url]Video[/url]
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    3. Henry Armstrong [url]Video[/url]
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    2. Muhammad Ali [url]Video[/url]
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    1. Sugar Ray Robinson [url]Video[/url]
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    [url]Joe Tessitore and Teddy Atlas on the list[/url]
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    I know I don't necessarily agree with this here list . . .

    Omissions that one can make an argument for: Lennox Lewis, Aaron Pryor, Jersey Joe Walcott, Hactor Camacho.

    Suspicious rankings: Duran at #6!!!!!!! You'va gotta be kiddin' me. :huh I like Manos de Piedra as much as any other but #6, fuhgeddaboutit! Ray Leonard #12, yet Hagler #35??? . . . and Tommy Hearns #37??? :-( Whitaker #44, behind Marco Antonio Barrera! C'mon, man. Disgraceful. :patsch Roy Jones, #46, he should be at least around #25. Mayweather #48, he's gotta rank better than that, and Erik Morales even on the list??? . . . he's a top one hundred guy.

    I'd love to hear some opinions.
     
    Club Fighter, Jun 30, 2007
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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    This is the old list.
    You need the revised version that came out about a week later.
     
    robert ungurean, Jun 30, 2007
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  3. Sizzle

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    It's OK, but some of the rankings are laughable.

    Carlos Monzon was the most dominant middleweight ever, how on earth he could be ranked behind Jake LaMotta is anyones guess.

    I'm not sure about Barrera being ranked ahead of Hopkins, Jones Jr, and Mayweather either.

    The Dempsey ranking is a complete joke also, he shouldn't be top100.

    How Foreman weasled in at No.20 on an all-time P4P list is anyones guess.
     
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  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Terrible list, but better than average for ESPN.
     
    sweet_scientist, Jun 30, 2007
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  5. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Souldn't this be "ESPN's 50 Greatest "boxers" of All-Time" ?
     
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  6. Smith

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    Monzon is far, far to low. He is without a doubt top 20
     
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  7. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch :rofl hORROR LIST...........HAGLER AT 35 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    CHAVEZ AT 24 ........EVEN WORSE.........
     
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  8. sandwichsurgeon

    sandwichsurgeon Active Member Full Member

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    The funny thing is this is actually his job
     
    sandwichsurgeon, Jun 30, 2007
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  9. Club Fighter

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    ESPN never revised the list, independent critics revised it. As far as ESPN is concerned this list still stands. I'm just interested in others' takes on ESPN's list.
     
    Club Fighter, Jun 30, 2007
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  10. Club Fighter

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    Do you honestly dispute Foreman's ranking? Granted, he was basicly a brawler during his first incarnation. If someone took the time to hone his talents he probably could have been #1 all-time. He lost to Ali in a fight that he could have and should have won had he had a better corner. He thoroughly dominated a P4P great in Frazier and destroyed Ken Norton, won an Olympic Gold Medal and also became the oldest Heavyweight Champ ever (eclipsing Jersey joe Walcott's record) while only being knocked down twice in his career. During his reincarnation he didn't even bother to sit in between rounds no matter the circustances. Big George is definitely desrving of #20.
     
    Club Fighter, Jun 30, 2007
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  11. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There Are Way Too Many Oldtimers On That List.......greb Is Number 13 ....where Is That Based On ? There Are No Footages Of Any Of His Fights ...saw Him On You Tube Training....looked Like A Skinny And Limited Boxer .....
     
    heerko koois, Jun 30, 2007
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  12. DonPrestige

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    I think most people agree that this is a terrible list overall with some rankings making no sense.

    One thing, while I will admit I am biased because he's my favourite boxer, Why cant people look past the troubles in his life and concentrate on the talent in his prime. I refer to Mike Tyson, one of the most exciting fighters, hardest punches, biggest draws, olympic gold medalist and more importantly youngest ever heavyweight champion of all time. His later career is obviously well documented but in his prime doesnt he deserve to be moved up. I say this because people know he was a great fighter but due to the image and lifestyle they choose to drop him a few places. However I guess its the same with all these lists people give favourable rankings to the fighters they liked such as Leonard in this list.
     
    DonPrestige, Jun 30, 2007
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  13. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    ESPN lists are always a little to biased towards the Heavyweights
    When did Tyson win a Gold Medal?
    SRL deserves to be that high on this list. I don't think Mab or Morales should be on that list at
    all. In his prime Mab got blown out twice by Junior Jones
     
    quintonjacksonfan, Jun 30, 2007
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  14. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The first thing I noticed is that Lennie Lewis needs to be on that list, and he should be high on that list.
     
    Heavyrighthand, Jun 30, 2007
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  15. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    THEY ALL LOVE GREB........DESPITE THE FACT THAT NO ONE ALIVE HAS EVER SEEN HIM FIGHT..........OFCOURSE LEWIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTED..........
     
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