ESPN's Pound For Pound Rankings

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Winky Wright has only lost once this millenium and that was when he moved up in weight to fight The Living Legend.

 

except for hopkins at no. 3 (he should be no. 5 or 6), this should be a good top five (or 6).

 

Fair enough, it depends on your criteria. In Hopkins last 2 matches he beat guys that were in the top 10 pound for pound, Tarver and Winky.

 

fmj

mp

joe c

cotto

kess

hopkins

wlad

chris john

pavlik

vazquez

mosley

jmm

juan diaz

dawson

rafa marquez

donaire

mijares

taylor

haye

hatton

spinks

wright

linares

molitor

guzman

alcine

bute





crucify me, this was a hard list to come up with.

i would have liked to rank Dzinziruk, but i know nothing of him

 

Bhop & Calzghe can't be a ahead of Pac.

Bhop never avenge his loss & never tried hard to make a fight with RJJ again. Bhop lost twice to the overrated Taylor.

Calzaghe deserve #3 but can't be ahead of Pac. AT 36 Calzaghe should've fought Bhop, RJJ, Glen Johnson, Tarver years ago. Why now when Bhop is 43??? Did Calzaghe demand these fights in the past when these fighters are in their prime???

 

The only reason I put Calzaghe ahead of Pac is because he's undefeated and just had a really good win over a highly regarded Kessler, for unification. I could see Hopkins maybe being below Pac, but even when he lost it was in controversy, to where most people feel he either won one or both of those fights, which snapped a unbeaten streak that lasted 12 years. He has since rebounded by beating pound for pound top 10 guys at the time like Tarver and Winky.

 

ok list to me

 

Is pacdbest the only other guy who thinks theres no way in hell pac should be anywhere else but #2? And as for the rest of the list....well.....its espn guys, what do you expect? DLH at 13?? Gimme a f'in break. If he had a different name he would be at #30 or so

 

Undefeated because he tried to avoid the stiffest competiton. Pac started as a teenager with none of those high quality equiptment Or even good nutrition. His 1st 2 loss was in his flyweight days when he was a teenager & weightdrained. Let's say Pac's amateur days are his Flyweight days, at 122 he racks a Knockout streak against a good opposition until he runs out of Challenge. He Chase greatness against HOFamers MAB & EM at the higher wt class.

He lost to Morales but he avenges that loss twice with 2 KO wins. A Pac morales loss & win is like Calzaghe losing to RJJ in his 1st attempt at Light Heavyweight Then Knocking out RJJ twice in the rematches. But Calzaghe never fought an RJJ.

This is the reason I don't overrate undefeated fighters. I rate them in their overrall resume & how they win against the best of the best. Who is the Morales & Barrera in Calzaghe's resume??? Don't tell me Kessler & Lacy??? They're not comparable. Lacy & Kessler are just like Sasakul or Ledwaba is Pac's resume.

If Calzaghe beat Bhop that's the equivalent of Pac's second win against MAB. If he KO Bhop that's equivalent of Pac's 1st KO win against Morales. But by that time Pac already has his JMM. Calzaghe will be just Playing catch-up.

 

PBF
Pac
Hopkins

 

where is haye
who i think deserves to be higher than pavlik

 

Right here.

 

That's what Kessler is in Calzaghe's resume "Highly regarded" just like Ledwaba when Pac beat him.

 

The idea of P4P is to match fighters as if they were of EQUAL SIZE.

Personally I wouldn't put him in top-ten at all. I'd put Baby Bull unstead.