ESPN'S: Top 20 fighters of all time.

I think Pep is low but there is far worse things with the list. And I'm a big Pep fan.

 

It's a great list, but "pretentious" comes to mind a little. It's like one of those favorite films lists someone makes with a bunch of independent and foreign films listed. Although favorite and best aren't the same. Guys like Fitzsimmons feel a bit high, as does Langford as #1. Moore, Louis, and Duran feel a hair low. Obviously a top-notch list... better than what I could do.

 

Jim Hall?

 

Smitty we're in need of a great list. Could you post your top 20? I remember being most impressed with it, and thinking it was the best list produced on this fine site.

 

Is it just me ? or did anyone esle feel that they critisize Tyson more then praise him ???

 

Mcgrain how can u not have Ali in your top 5? That's ****en pathetic. Ali was a dominant ****en heavyweight who beat about everyone in his era which everybody considers the strongest heavyweight division ever, right behind the 2000's heavyweight era. Wladimir number 1 GOAT.

Chavez is no where ****en close to top 10. Chavez is top 30-35.

 

Your post may have been taken seriously if not for this.

 

You don't live around Oakland do you Burt?

 

Thanks, McGrain's list IS pretty impressive and not to far off my own barring inclusion of McLarnin and Canzoneri. ESPN's list however is totally in left field compared to ours. If i'm not mistaken this is how I had mine (exclusion of pics and description).

1a. Ray Robinson
1b. Harry Greb
2. Sam Langford
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Bob Fitzsimmons
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Willie Pep
7. Benny Leonard
8. Roberto Duran
9. Mickey Walker
10. Muhammad Ali
11. Barney Ross
12. Archie Moore
13. Ray Leonard
14. Joe Gans
15. Charley Burley
16. Pernell Whitaker
17. Joe Louis
18. Gene Tunney
19. Tommy Loughran
20. Sandy Saddler

:good

 

Ah, miraculously all my senses have come back.

 

No, Florida most of the year..

 

Good list P4P,but I woulkd list Dempsey @190lbs way up there and my man Joe Louis in the top five also...They were to me the two best punchers at their respective peaks...Good list overall...

 

Dempsey was not a better puncher than Mike Tyson. I don't think Dempsey was a better puncher than Liston, Marciano, or Foreman either. I think you overrate Dempsey attempting to pin him on the same level as Louis.