Essexboy's Top 25 British Boxers

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by essexboy, Oct 17, 2009.


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  1. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Jimmy Wilde
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Ted 'Kid' Lewis
    Jack 'Kid' Berg
    Lennox Lewis
    Ken Buchanan
    Freddie Welsh
    Jim Driscoll
    Benny Lynch
    Joe Calzaghe
    Howard Winstone
    Randy Turpin
    Owen Moran
    Alan Minter
    Terry Downes
    Naseem Hamed
    Freddie Mills
    Ricky Hatton
    Lloyd Honeyghan
    John H Stracey
    John Conteh
    Nigel Benn
    Chris Eubank
    Herol Graham
    Tommy Farr

    Problem with the list? I dont care.
     
    essexboy, Oct 17, 2009
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  2. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Seriously opinions welcome.
     
    essexboy, Oct 17, 2009
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  3. G.A.V.

    G.A.V. Guest

    Needs more Frank Bruno.
     
    G.A.V., Oct 17, 2009
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  4. Jack Dempsey

    Jack Dempsey Legend Full Member

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    I like your top 9
     
    Jack Dempsey, Oct 17, 2009
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  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Fitzsimmons is too low

    please explain why Wilde is better than him
     
    GPater11093, Oct 17, 2009
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  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Too much Caveman love.
     
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  7. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Conteh below Hatton, Downes and Minter? Not too much thought's gone into some of this methinks.
     
    My dinner with Conteh, Oct 18, 2009
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  8. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    :yep

    Yeah, it's a bit 'top heavy' in that respect.
     
    My dinner with Conteh, Oct 18, 2009
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  9. cupid

    cupid LONDONER Full Member

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    Hatton above Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank:blood
     
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  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Lewis too low.

    Conteh and Benn also low, Minter a bit high.

    Agree with Jeff and MDWC regarding the general theme of overrating the cavemen.

    :good
     
    Beeston Brawler, Oct 18, 2009
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  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Not bad, Hatton's above people he shouldn't be.
     
    TFFP, Oct 18, 2009
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  12. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    :rofl

    A case can be made for both but I'll go ahead and tell you the things you probably already know. Wilde was unbeaten through his prime and cleaned up all the world's best flyweights to become undisputed champ in a time where there really wasnt undisputed champs in the lighter weights. He was often lighter than his opponents and regularily knocked them out. Im not saying Fitzsimmons is **** by placing him second its just a matter of preference.

    Conteh had more talent but didnt process it into achievements. Just cos your upset with one placing (and I can see why by your username) doesnt compromise the whole list. Hatton, Downes and Minter despite being less talented all got bigger names on their records and succeeded at a higher level for longer.

    Our older fighters were better and more accomplished mostly. Lewis and Buchanan are highly placed.

    You could make a case for Benn but what exactly has Eubank done to deserve a higher ranking? Hatton fought against the best guys in the division at a time when guys like Tszyu, Castillo, Mayweather and Pacquiao were top of the division, quite simply Eubank didnt. I dont wanna keep slagging Eubank off because I enjoyed watching him fight but saying he deserves to be higher than Hatton who actually tried to make the most of his talents is unfair.

    As for Benn, I love him and hes my favourite fighter ever and although he made more of an effort than Eubank he was a fight with McCallum, Toney, Nunn or Jones away from being higher.
     
    essexboy, Oct 18, 2009
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  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Only problem is Hatton just beat Tszyu, old ass Castillo and Collazo. They are his best wins.

    Nothing better than what Eubank and Benn did to be honest. McClellan matches up alongside the win over Tszyu, so does Eubank's win over Benn, and the rest of their resumes are not much different.

    Whether he got his ass kicked by Mayweather/Pac is irrelevant to be honest, its like saying Eubank or Benn would be higher if they fought Jones and got murdered. How does that help?
     
    TFFP, Oct 18, 2009
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  14. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know you're mocking, but...

    To make a defence of Bruno, you could say he'd have a small chance against any HW H2H, or at least have a punchers chance.

    I would't give some of those in the list any chance against the All Time Greats.

    I guess that was the attraction with Frank.
     
    JonOli, Oct 18, 2009
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  15. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    No offense EB but the list looks you lost interest in the order about a quarter of the way in and then just put names down as they came into your head.
     
    GazOC, Oct 18, 2009
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