Esteban De Jesus 'I Beat Duran So Easy'

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  1. Flea Man

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    Awesome Pepe! :happy
     
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  2. Senor Pepe'

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    Bokaj,,,,,,,,,I'm building up to it.

    February 14, 1972

    Esteban returns back from Venezuela, and abandoned the idea to
    campaign at 130 lbs., and decides to go back to 135 lb. Lightweight.

    In his first bout back home in San Juan, Esteban scores an impressive
    10-Round Decision over 'Jamaican' British-Commonwealth Lightweight Champion-
    Percy Hayles 31-24-6 (9 KO's).

    Esteban defeats the #10 ranked Lightweight, and experienced 31 year-old Jamaican,
    by keeping non-stop pressure on the veteran.

    The victory gets Esteban to 27-1-0, and an offer to go to New York, to fight at the Felt Forum.
     
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  3. Flea Man

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    All the Duran-DeJesus fights are widely available.
     
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  4. DigMona

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    There is film of it, I've a copy myself although I haven't watched it in a few years.

    De Jesus is right, he did beat Duran easily enough. I'm pretty sure I only gave Duran 2 or 3 rounds. I never saw Duran take as many clean shots pre New Orleans as he had in this fight. I thought Duran looked a bit laboured and hesitant maybe in this fight and just wasn't his night.

    Difference in the 2nd fight was just Duran's intensity and physicality which wasn't there for the 1st fight and this is where De Jesus struggles imo. Plus Duran just being more mature and experienced after a loss (similar to Leonard after Montreal).

    3rd fight Duran maybe the best lightweight ever in that fight and De Jesus had maybe slipped a bit.
     
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  5. Senor Pepe'

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    Gregorio 'Papa' Benitez kept Esteban very busy in 1972, leading up to the November bout
    with Roberto Duran.

    Victories over;
    * April 10............{TKO 8}........George Foster
    * May 1.............{TKO 12}.......Josue Marquez (The bout was for the Puerto Rican Lightweight Championship)
    * July 8............{W Dec 10}.....Angel Robinson Garcia
    * July 28...........{W Dec 10}.....Chuck Wilburn
    * September 18..{W Dec 10}.....Raymondo Dias (Brazilian Lightweight Champion)
    * October 30......{W Dec 10}.....Doc McClendon

    Entering the bout with Roberto Duran, the 21 year, 3 month old - Esteban De Jesus had compiled a record of 33-1-0 (18 KO's).
     
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  6. Senor Pepe'

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    November 17, 1972

    Madison Square Garden

    10-Round 'non-title' bout (138 lbs. contract weight - maximum)

    Roberto Duran vs. Esteban De Jesus

    Tale of the Tape

    Roberto Duran (Panama)
    * WBA Lightweight Champion
    Age.........21 years, 5 months
    Height......5' 7"
    Reach......66"
    Weight.....137 1/2 lbs.
    Record.....31-0-0 {27 KO's}

    Esteban De Jesus (Puerto Rico)
    #3 WBC / #5 WBA Lightweight
    Age........21 years, 3 months
    Height.....5' 4 1/2"
    Reach.....67"
    Weight....138 lbs.
    Record....33-1-0 {18 KO's}

    Fight Purses (Roberto Duran - $50,000) - (Esteban De Jesus - $10,000)

    The Skinny

    Roberto Duran, who had won the WBA Lightweight Championship with a
    (TKO 13) over Ken Buchanan in June 1972, comes back to New York for a
    tune-up bout versus a talented, but little known Puerto Rican Lightweight.

    Duran has a scheduled return bout with former Champion - Ken Buchanan
    for June 1973. Duran's Trainer - Ray Arcel wants his fighter to stay busy,
    and prevent him from getting to complacent. Since winning the WBA Title,
    Roberto has had '2' non-title bouts at Light-Welterweight, against weak
    opponents in Panama.

    Esteban De Jesus, who has a smart trainer in Gregorio 'Papa' Benitez, has
    been working with his fighter, by keeping him busy and sharp in 1972, as
    this will be his '8th-bout' this year. Benitez who has '26-fighters' in his
    stable, has been preparing Esteban for this specific bout.
     
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  7. Woller

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    Oh yes - The full fight exists.

    Woller
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    I've said above; all 3 fights exist in their entirety.

    Haven't checked but probably all on YouTube if not, let me know and I'll sort it :thumbsup
     
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  9. bladerunner

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    The full fight exists , it was a 10 round non title fight at jr welter on MSG, Duran got dropped early and never got going, didnt look like he was up for it but still credit to Dejesus for beating him fair and square.
     
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  10. lora

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    Am i the only one that thought the first of the trilogy was a close fight?

    It's true about what everyone is saying about Duran and Esteban deserved the win, but after the early burst it was nip and tuck, not easy to score.6-4\6-5-1 sort of fight.
     
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  11. Senor Pepe'

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    Friay Night - November 17, 1972

    'Upset At The Garden'

    Attendance; 9177

    Esteben De Jesus came out like a 'small version' of 'Smokin' Joe Frazier, looking to load up early.

    Moments into the bout, after a 30-second feeling out period, Esteban landed a quick right hand
    at the 0:30 Mark, that for a flash-second appeared to stun Roberto. 15-seonds later at the 0:45 Mark,
    Esteban lands a wicked half-left hook/half-left uppercut flush on Duran's chin, dropping him on his back.

    Roberto is up at the '2-Count', but is more stunned than hurt. For the rest of the round, Roberto fought
    like he was in a 'fog', as Esteban looked to load up again.

    Roberto was 'never-the-same', and for the next 6-Rounds, he did not fight with the same reckless abandon
    that he had in his previous '31-bouts'. For the first time in his career, he was fighting someone of equal caliber,
    and one who was not afraid of him.
     
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  12. TheGreatA

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    Duran had his difficulties with DeJesus early on in the rematch as well. Then he just came on and grinded DeJesus down. With 15 rounds to work with in the first fight, perhaps he could have done the same.

    Obviously Duran did far better in the rematch but he wasn't that far behind on the cards in their first fight, justifiably or not, and could have conceivably won a decision had he won the majority of the last 5 rounds in a hypothetical 15 round fight.

    No excuse since it was a scheduled 10 round bout, just an explanation for why DeJesus seemed to do so well in comparison. It was the rounds beyond the 10th that truly did DeJesus in during their rematches, otherwise he may have lasted the distance.
     
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  13. TheGreatA

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    I don't see the comparisons to Joe Frazier either. DeJesus was a counter-puncher who was usually on the backfoot. The only comparison may have been DeJesus's bobbing and weaving due to his short height.

    Duran had already fought Ken Buchanan and Ernesto Marcel who were no jokes so it's not as if he had not met anyone of DeJesus's caliber.
     
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  14. lora

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    Very true A.Dejesus had great technique and considerable power, it was just physicality\stamina that lets him down a bit.

    Not that he was a weakling or easily gassed per se, but his gifts there were more in line with your average 130\135lber rather than special and that would tell against certain great fighters(and see him have issues with some less than greats as well no doubt)
     
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  15. Senor Pepe'

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    November 17, 1972

    Interesting Fact -

    Esteban De Jesus was ranked as the #5 WBA Lightweight entering the bout.

    The 9177 fans at Madison Square Garden, were 'pro' Esteban De Jesus, as
    there was a large Puerto Rican base there that night.

    Before the bout, Carlos Eleta (Roberto's manager) stated that if Esteban
    De Jesus did defeat his fighter, that Esteban would not get a Title Shot
    versus Roberto for '2-years', and 'only' in Panama.

    Only one-week earlier (November 10, 1972) Rodolfo Gonzalez had defeated
    WBC Lightweight Champion - Chango Carmona to win the Chmapionship,
    and Rodolfo was looking to fight either Duran or De Jesus in early-1973.
     
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