Esteban de jesus vs juan marquez at LW?

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  1. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    nope. if jmm is so great at lightweight, he should've dominated or dismantled guys like casamayor or diaz who are not even near his level.

    but almost all of his fights at 135 have been competitive which should not be the case for a top p4p guy.

    this just means that jmm is already past his prime weight and is just extending himself. jmm is really a career featherweight who has slowly lost his speed, reflexes and timing going up from 126. he actually hasn't improved since his last fight with pac and imo, has noticably regressed in the past 4 years. probably age and the added weight have finally caught up with him and maybe those 2 fights with pac took a lot out of him.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    i respectfully disagree. the fact that he was able to dismantle arguably the top 2 lightweights is a great testament. remember he was an underdog to diaz in the first fight, and yes casamayor was very 50-50 i'll agree with that bit.

    but at the end of the day the best lightweights were who? campbell, funeks, casamayor, diaz. not in order but them 4 were the men. he stopped 2 of them. beat them so bad they couldnt continue. both for the first time.

    it would have been good seeing him vs an elite lightweight, but we'll never know. hence threads like this. :good
     
  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Exactly.

    The likes of Diaz and faded Casamayor are not any better than Lampkin, Ishimatsu, Frazer, Viruet, etc. Forget the trilogy with Duran, he was still the far more impressive Lightweight compared to JMM.
     
  4. Doc

    Doc Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    You know your ****.

    Come on Diaz was a ****ing favorite.. Touted as PACQUIAO killer or whatever and look what MARQUEZ did to him... Damaged him as a fighter and to this day he has not yet recovered he even changed his style of fighting He use to be a boxer puncher How he got his name BABY BULL but after that devastating KO DIAZ was afraid to exchnage and turned into a boxer...

    Marquez with one fight destroyed his career, name and reputation, even style of fighting. He went on to lose to MALINAGGI lol
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    :good