Esteemed poster Big Reg's thoughts on the fight

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    This was both an ugly and an interesting fight. Both guys were both impressive and dissapointing let's start with Nard

    Nard's performance: Hopkins is 43 and he showed his age last night. He couldn't put his punches together, and he seemed to tire down the stretch. He also relied too heavily on that straight right hand. However, he did a great job moving around that ring and never gave Calzaghe an easy target. He was able to walk Calzaghe right into shots, and did a great job of employing a lot of old school tricks. His inablilty to control the pace for the second half of the fight as well as the fact that he didn't follow up that straight right with a left hook, didn't work the body, and didn't throw many punches cost him.

    Calzaghe's performance: Many Calzaghe supporters will point to his chin, defense, workrate and intelligence as his some of his main strenghts. None of those were on display for a good part of the fight. He only needed to avoid one punch and he couldn't do it. He was knocked down and rocked on another occasion, and he wasn't getting off many punches. For a good portion of that fight he looked amateurish. However, he as able to turn it around down the stretch. He started getting out of the way of that straight right, and he was able to throw more of his pattented slap flurries. It wasn't an easy night for Calzaghe, but then again, it never is when you're fighting the Executioner

    The results: This was a difficult fight to score. Calzaghe was the busier fighter, but Nard landed the harder shots. In the end I gave Calzaghe the nod, 115-112. It wasn't the blowout that many predicted, but he was able to make enough adjustments to pull out a hard fought victory. He looked bad in there at times but you have to give him credit for making good adjustments that enabled him to win against an aging fighter who was willing to employ every trick in the book.
     
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  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Good post. :cool:
     
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  3. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    :rofl
     
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  4. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good post reg.
     
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  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    **** off *******, I've earned the esteemed tag. No need to hate.:yep
     
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  6. fitzgeraldz

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    Calzaghe didn't fight well ... I thought his fight against Kessler was a more discipline and last night he was on some bull****.

    He did enough to win the fight but I thought it was closer than 116-111 ... at times it was just Calzaghe throwing punches and not landing.
     
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  7. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    :rofl

    I will give you one thing old chap. You can look objectivly on fights after the fact.

    :good
     
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  8. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Hopkins didn't make his case any better by having long stretches on inactivity. And even though Calzaghe wasn't landing as much - he was still throwing punches.
     
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  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice post man!

    I feel the same just I gave one more round to Joe. It doesn't matter. The good thing for Joe was that after almost getting knocked out, he was able to neutralize the effective Hopkins style for the 2nd part of the fight and then stunningly for me, who's watching every Hopkins fight excited, Hopkins became confused, faking those low blow pains. In the end, Joe did enough to win. But the KD will be there with him and Hopkins can tell that he lost a close dec. vs. Joe and knocking him down in the process... I'd also add that this was Joe's LHW debut and he fought The Ring champ in his first fight.
     
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  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Good point. Hopkins looked like he didn't know what to do down the stretch. Once he couldn't land that straight right he was in trouble. I think he was faking those low blows to get a point take away from Joe, throw Joe out of his rythym, and get some rest. Many will give Calzaghe flak over this fight, but Hopkins is one crafty guy. He can't do a lot of things he could when he was younger, but he's still resourceful. I was impressed that Joe was able to keep his cool and takeover the fight.
     
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  11. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Good & fair post. Nobody looks good against Hopkins & he did land the more meaningful punches but they were few & far between.
     
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    Calzagne landed 100 more punches than Hops did. They weren't all perfectly accurate power punches but any real judge gives the aggressor & busier fighter the nod.
     
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  13. fitzgeraldz

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    It was very hard to tell if alot of those punches even reached B-Hop let alone land.

    Thats why Calzaghe had to flurry ... in hopes of landing one or two punches.

    No all judges, judge like that either ... they can also give it to the fighter using the ring well ... counter puncher ... the fighter landing the cleaner shots.

    Its not all about punch output ... you can have a guy like Calzaghe doing all that shoe shine'n and not landing anything effective ... or you can have a guy not throwing much but obviously throwing the cleaner - harder punches. :-(

    The fight couldve went either way ... don't always rely on punch stats to determine who you think won a fight ... sometimes - more times than most ... you actually have to watch the fight and figure out who's landing cleanly and who's just wasting shots.
     
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  14. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Good post. But watching that fight without the dingbat announcers that were given credit for Calzaghes MISSED punches are ****ing funny. I mean 39% of power shots landed for Calzaghe. That is a ****ing utter JOKE. Bhop made him look like an amateur and made him miss like.....everything and Calzaghe only landed about 5 good clean left hands the whole fight. The others were him running up #s with slaps. I scored the fight for Calzaghe b/c Bhop did get tired and as I said was a one handed fighter in his old age. Also, I did say that Bhop was going to score a moral victory by putting that mother****er on his ass win or lose. That **** happened in round 1, he made Calzaghe go into a shell.
     
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  15. fitzgeraldz

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    Windmill punches reminds me of a how a girl street fight goes ...
     
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