Estimate their remaining world-class shelf-life:

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  1. Super Hans

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    1. Lucas Matthysse - If he stays at 140, about 3 years, if he moves to 147, will likely become lost in the shuffle for maybe half that
    2. Alexander Povetkin - at least 4 years.
    3. Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - Not sure he will ever get a world class win again. The world class fighter might see him as a bigger risk than reward, maybe GGG will fight him but knock him down 128 times on the way to winning on points
    4. Marco Huck - Cruiserweight is starting to look pretty loaded and his style often doesn't make for a long career. so Maybe 2 years
    5. George Groves -He'll beat Jack & Abraham but lose to DeGale and Ward. Carefully matched however mayve 3 years
    6. Guillermo Rigondeaux - I don't think we will ever see him fight another world class operator so hard to say. Still will be considered dangerous up until when he retires though
    7. David Lemieux - Up until he runs into GGG who ruins him.
    8. Ruslan Provodnikov - Either immediatley if he moves up to Welter or 2 years tops. Can imagine him having to retire after fooking up his eye socket
    9. Jamie McDonnell - At Batamweight about 4 years, but moving up to Jr Feather apparently so don't like his chances against the top dogs. Maybe 2 years in thatcase
    10. Carlos Takam - 2 years unless he runs into Joshua in that time, then he gets ended
    11. Martin Murray - Think he will be used as a stepping stone at 168 for the likes of DeGale and Callum Smith, perhaps already over
    12. Kazuto Ioka - Not the same force at Fly and Gonzalez and Estrada would ruin him. If he can avoid them, maybe 3 years.
    13. James DeGale - A while yet, maybe 4 or 5 years
    14. Gary Russell Jr. - 5 years but won't reach the heights many predicted of him and never become the man in any division
    15. Hekkie Budler - 3 years. Guys this size are just a bag of bones so proably not healthy to go onto too long and will go the way of Joyi afterwards
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :rofl @ GGG's 128 KD's of HNN. :deal
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    So, just Hans and I? Nobody else care to play?
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Lucas Matthysse - If matched properly without taking to much punishment, he could last another 3 to 4 years 4 to 5 more fights
    Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - He can continue to pad his record by shutting out below par fighters and lose again when he steps, the perennial contender. 3 to 4 more years depending on who he fights.6 more matches.
    Marco Huck - If he stays at CW and continues to fight average opponents 2 to 3 more years, if he moves to HW 1 to 2. CW 4 to 5 fights. HW if matched well 2 to 4.
    George Groves - He could be one loss away from being another Paul Smith, but if he can take out Jack and somehow get past DeGale he may be able to stretch out his relevancy 2 to 4 years 5 to 7 matches.
    Guillermo Rigondeaux - I have a feeing like its only a matter of time before someone cracks his Cuban Glass and when that happens he'll become automatically irrelevant, because he's hard to sell now, and without a perfect record or a belt they'll be no incentive for anyone to face him. But his style will allow him to go for 2-4 more years. 5-7 more matches.
    David Lemieux - Sky's the limit if he keeps winning 5 to 7 years, if he faces GGG he'll take a few steps down but continue KOing the Geale's and Fletcher's of the world and last awhile longer 8-10 matches.
    Ruslan Provodnikov - 1 to 3 years, he needs a few soft touches, if well matched 4-6 more matches
    Jamie McDonnell - A few more matches before getting stopped by Yamanaka, or he can move up and get stopped by Frampton instead. But he'll still hang around for 4-5 more years, losses don't phase the Brits too much. 5-7 more matches.
    Carlos Takam - I have a feeling he's going to turn into another Danny Williams type so 7-9 more years, 8-10 more matches.
    Martin Murray - I doubt he'll go far at SMW he'll take a beating against most so 3-4 more years tops 4-6 more matches.
    Kazuto Ioka - When he steps up he'll lose to the top Flyweights, but he'll probably stay around for a while longer 5-6 years and 6-8 more matches.
    James DeGale - Depends on how he's matched, if its Froch or BHop he won't be relevant for too long, if he moves up he'll lose by KO but if matched well 5-6 years 5-8 more matches.
    Gary Russell Jr. - He can go for another 7-8 years 9-10 more matches as long as he doesn't take any major beatings.
    Hekkie Budler - For 3-4 years 5-8 more matches he'll probably become another gatekeeper after his next loss.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Cool man. I really hope you're right about LMM.
     
  6. Big Ukrainian

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    Lucas Matthysse - _____3 years
    Alexander Povetkin - _____4-5 years (up to 40)
    Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - _____2-3 yrs
    Marco Huck - _____2 years (or till the Usyk fight:yep)
    George Groves - _____3 yrs of till his next KO loss
    Guillermo Rigondeaux - _____3 years
    David Lemieux - _____ltill GGG fight :yep
    Ruslan Provodnikov - _____1 year max
    Jamie McDonnell - _____
    Carlos Takam - _____2 years more or till he gets KO'd once more
    Martin Murray - _____1 year that's it
    Kazuto Ioka - _____
    James DeGale - _____3 years
    Gary Russell Jr. - _____5 or even more
    Hekkie Budler - _____
     
  7. Cafe

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    Why did I always think Huck is like 35+, dude seems like he's been around forever now.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He has, but he's youngish.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not into the lower weights?
     
  10. Big Ukrainian

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    Don't follow them so closely :bbb
     
  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Awesome thread, will contribute... soon...
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm finished with my opinions see above.:deal
     
  13. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depending on how he's matched.

    He could certainly pick up a vacant strap if pitted against the likes of Algieiri or Postol, but I don't see him hanging with TC at 140lbs, and I have a feeling he'd lose a pretty clear decision.

    3 or 4 fights in any event would be my guess. (2-3 years with tune-ups).
     
  14. Drew101

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    I'll do the rest in a bit.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :worm