Eubank: Calzaghe/Froch/Benn were LUCKY

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  1. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eubank clearly lost 11 out of 12 rounds against Collins in their rematch.

    The call from Calzaghe's camp???

    Eubank already signed a promotional deal with Frank ****** and was on the Collins/Calzaghe/Hamed card for his big comeback...

    Eubank states in his autobiography that his knee was in such bad condition he couldn't even do roadwork or work on foot movement.
     
  2. atberry

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    No bookmaker favoured Eubank.

    Calzaghe was around 2/1 favourite with almost all (though William Hill had him 13/8 if I recall correctly) - I bet on him at 5/2 which was the best odds I could find.
     
  3. atberry

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    You flew in to Britain from New York to pay to watch it on TV?
     
  4. PugilisticPower

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    Was that the biography he wrote attempting to validate every single loss with an excuse?

    Go review the actual fight. Eubank was moving just fine, the fact was that he was simply beaten to the punch and unlike most opponents, when he landed a big shot on Calzaghe, Calzaghe didn't wilt.

    Eubank's best rounds in that fight were from Round 8 onwards, that's not a guy who struggled to condition himself. He even stated in an interview that he knew early on in the fight that Calzaghe had more handspeed and power than he anticipated and his only hope was to attempt to suck Calzaghe into expending too much energy, taking him late and stopping him.

    Calzaghe states that Eubank was his hardest ever fight, even after beating Hopkins, Kessler and so on and so forth. Eubank has come out many times and said he strongly expected Calzaghe to finish undefeated based on his experience with him within the ring.

    Of course, now that Eubank is thinking about a come back to assist his son, he needs publicity, hence he starts squarking.

    I can't think of any other fighter that people love to discredit wins other than Calzaghe.

    Huge Underdog against Eubank
    Huge Underdog against Jeff Lacy
    Underdog against Robin Reid
    Underdog against Byron Mitchell
    Even money against Mario Veit (1)
    Even money against Richie Woodhall

    But apparently all of those wins are poor, due to various circumstances? Lets face it, history revisionism, just as much as people who think Floyd actually lost against JLC - guys who never saw the tape.
     
  5. PugilisticPower

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    I was living in England at the time (hence my usage of "bollocks" and other English slang statements)
     
  6. atberry

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    He had a title shot waiting from everyone. But chose Thompson because he felt it would build more publicity with it being two weights up.

    He stated he'd 'slaughter' Collins at light-heavy.
     
  7. PugilisticPower

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    Absolute lies.

    I had 10 quid on Calzaghe to win and it returned 33.50 quid. It was my second ever sports bet, with my first being Lennox Lewis vs Tommy Morrison. I also remember it vividly because I started betting on Calzaghe frequently afterwards hence knowing the odds to all of his fights.

    The amount I bet on Calzaghe against Lacy almost cost me a divorce. I borrowed money to bet on Calzaghe against Lacy - he has made me a small fortune over the years.
     
  8. atberry

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    Eubank's best round in that fight was actually Round 7.

    And no, he clearly wasn't moving like he used to. His lateral footwork wasn't there in that fight and he explained why in his book.
     
  9. atberry

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    If you had 10 quid on Calzaghe to win and won 33.50, then that means he was indeed about 2/1 as I stated.
     
  10. PugilisticPower

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    10 pound bet, 33.50 pound winning, 43.50 pound returned. You stated Calzaghe was a favorite which is an outright lie.

    Eubank didn't move effectively because he got knocked down early in the fight and was buzzed by the shot, he even states in various interviews that he knew he was in for a hell of a fight and decided to hunker down and hope for Calzaghe to punch himself out, hence fighting on the inside a lot more than expected and hence not throwing those sneaky right hands until later in the fight.

    He didn't want to risk being caught again, like he's said many times in interviews, he's never been hit as hard as he got hit by Calzaghe that night.
     
  11. knockout artist

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    This thread has descended into another Calzaghe debate? They'll be talking about Joe in 50 years time like Marciano today - testament to his greatness
     
  12. atberry

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    Dude, Calzaghe was a heavy betting favourite. It was discussed by the Sky Box Office panel before the fight and the Sky commentators before the ring entrances. On whether he should be such a heavy betting fave as 2/1 on....
     
  13. atberry

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    SKY TV are more official than, uhh, PugilisticPower.
     
  14. atberry

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    [url]http://sosoboxing.com/boxing-video-watch-online/chris-eubank-vs-joe-calzaghe/[/url]
    at 3min mark..
     
  15. atberry

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    PS
    Pundits Collins and Reid predicted Calzaghe to win. Collins saying he felt that he had completely finished Eubank as a fighter, while Reid said that four years prior Eubank would've won in six rounds but then he felt Calzaghe would win in six.