Eubank-McCallum

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  1. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    "I've beaten Graham, I've beaten Watson. Where's Chris?" - Mike McCallum, Apr '91


    McCallum's countering to the body and gifts in peppering and parrying, and Eubank's almost unlimited ability in his lateral movement and left jab.

    I'm actually sure Eubank would've won, being considerably bigger and faster and McCallum's weakness at cutting the ring. I can see occasional Eubank flurries keeping Mike at bay, honestly. Watson and Collins were in front of him all night and Graham was for the last six.... Eubank was so frequently out of punching distance, even if minutely.

    McCallum had an extremely good jab but Eubank could out-jab him by stepping into his own jab, and he did that so impressively, doubling it easily. It would be whether McCallum could catch it and counter downstairs, because he never faced a jab like that before.

    Overall, McCallum is certainly the better fighter and technician. But I do think Eubank would've beaten him.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    McCallum schools Chris, and I was a massive Eubank fan back in the day
     
  3. easyLivin'

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    Eubank is over rated. He beat Benn. Chapeau Bas! But that's it. He should've lost the rematch. He should've lost Rocchigiani fight. He gave many poore performances and he was on the verge of defeat few times although he didn't face top-notch oppostion. Finally he lost twice to Steve Collins when he was still 29.

    McCallum was just much better boxer. He should've won first two fights with Toney in my opinion. He easily outpointed Collins that beat Eubank twice. He did very well against Watson that caused Eubank a lot of trouble in their two fights.

    McCallum UD
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your talking out your ass on that fight. He deserved at least 1 of the Collins fights, and the Benn draw could have been a loss but he has a very strong case for 6 of those rounds
     
  5. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i can't see it any other way
     
  6. easyLivin'

    easyLivin' Member Full Member

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    Can't see more than 5 rounds for Eubank in the rematch.
    I can see him winning Collins rematch though. Still McCallum did much better against Collins.
     
  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i always thought eubank won the first collins fight.he had a kd against him that was a slip and scored one that was ruled a slip.
    ater all the dodgy decisions that he'd won this one went against him.
    poetic justice.
     
  8. RDJ

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    McCallum gives him a boxing lesson over twelve. Not sure where the idea that McCallum is troubled by movement comes from? Not from Kalambay I hope, because Kalambay's movement is far better than Eubank's, Kalambay was a highly skilled boxer.
     
  9. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    McCallum beats Eubank 10 out of 10 times for me really - with all respect to Chris who was tough, strong, durable...McCallum foe me is a different class. I think Kalambay beats Eubank too.
     
  10. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Worth pointing out that Collins was quite raw and pre-rime when he fought Mike....not to mention hampered for the first half of the fight(which he lost widely)by a ridiculous petronelli gameplan of having him stick to a strict mobile boxing approach, you can hear them tell him in the corner to "box like kalambay" at one point if i remember correctly:lol:.

    when he turned brawler for the latter half he gave a much better account of himself and had McCallum looking tired and ragged, though admittedly i think McCallum really just started to slip physically in this fight.

    The Collins that Johnson, kaalmbay and Eubank fought was a more assured, balanced fighter.Comfortable in his own style, which was not the case against McCallum.

    Not that i think any of this has much to do with a Eubank McCallum fight though.I can see eubank doing well against McCallum for the first half then losing about 5 of the last 6 by varying margins depending on how fast paced the fight is fought.A clear 8-4 type bout.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

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    Yea Collins was different, the Watson fights are probably a better barometer. I actually prefered Eubanks work in the first fight, but most scored it to Watson, Eubank went life and death with Watson in the second literally. McCallum was much more controlled and dominant over Watson

    I see Eubank being largely outboxed and resorting to going stalking putting it all in the line for the kill late as he often did. Against McCallum he'd likely be picked off but it should resort in a grandstand finnish
     
  12. lora

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    I actually think watson had improved post-Mcallum as well, it was a good learning loss for him, ie Hagler Monroe.Not as green as Collins, but he was quite inexperienced and had been out for a year injured...though a good fighter, it showed in the one-paced overly one-two orientated fight he fought.

    The Watson htat fought Eubank especially in the 2nd fight would give a better account of himself and not be dismantled by inches like he was earlier imo.Still, McCallum was better than him that's definitely true.

    Watson was able to slip and counter, mix up to body and head better and generally be a more rounded technical boxer-puncher by the time he was mangled into retirement by Chris.In the rematch he put quicker, better pressure on Chris than i've ever seen McCallum perform.Mike's pace and style would be more akin to the first bout, which suits Chris.

    Still, it's McCallums fight to win or lose.He would need to have a notable off-night to get beat by Eubank.
     
  13. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eubank's offense was only poor against wide stances or constant movers, due to his short torso causing him to over-reach.

    But against some of the tightest technicians/tacticians (Watson, Rocchigiani, Thornton, Malinga) he was able to land the tightest, quickest of combinations, on the front as well as back foot. McCallum was much more of a looser, gifted fighter than those guys and the highest class, but he was quite narrow stanced and never skimmed the ropes and would have to go looking for Eubank. I definitely see Eubank flurrying him sporadically, and being younger and stronger taming him.
     
  14. crippet

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    You cant of seen the fight if you think that - He totally schooled Rocchigiani in front of a very partizan crowd - One of Eubanks very best performances
     
  15. itliangladiator

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    McCallum by wide UD. One of the most underrated boxers of the era.