EUBANK: Me & Watson were Best, I would've ended careers of Toney/RJJ

Mind Reader · Jul 1, 2013

Dementia is one hell of a problem, coming from someone who has dealt with multiple elderly people... The last thing anyone suffering from dementia needs is young folk fueling the fire, and that is what atberry gets here.

Super Hans · Jul 1, 2013

Calzaghe totally ruined Roy Jones.

If James Toney had the balls to fight him he would've ruined him too. :deal

Eric cantona · Jul 1, 2013

brnxhands said: ↑

Who cares... When you fight as often as toney did you're record isnt always going to be squeeky clean. You mention that all you want toneys wins still **** on both of their careers. They could never have done what toney did. Is Eubank okay? Sounds like he might still be bitter about james almost making him cry on that talk show
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Eubank done more than toney ...eubank was fighting every 2-3 months

turbotime · Jul 1, 2013

Jones would make Eubank look like everyone else he beat. Eubank did nothing special.

Loudon · Jul 2, 2013

Super Hans said: ↑

Calzaghe totally ruined Roy Jones.

If James Toney had the balls to fight him he would've ruined him too. :deal
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Beouche · Jul 2, 2013

turbotime said: ↑

Jones would make Eubank look like everyone else he beat. Eubank did nothing special.
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How dare you. No one could strut the pea c ock like prime Chris.

atberry · Jul 2, 2013

turbotime said: ↑

Jones would make Eubank look like everyone else he beat. Eubank did nothing special.
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CubanLinx · Jul 2, 2013

LMAO

Eubank would get bodied by both Toney and Jones if they fought. No ****ing way is he ending either of their careers.

Delusional brits really think they're hurting something

Loggo · Jul 2, 2013

On a TV sky boxing show he was a guest with Roy Jones,Steve Collins and Joe Calzaghe he admitted his ego wasn`t big enough to fight Roy Jones and James Toney and admitted it would be "suicide"to fight them.Nah,Eubank didn`t have the stomach to fight Toney or Jones,Benn might of though.

Mind Reader · Jul 2, 2013

Loggo said: ↑

On a TV sky boxing show he was a guest with Roy Jones,Steve Collins and Joe Calzaghe he admitted his ego wasn`t big enough to fight Roy Jones and James Toney and admitted it would be "suicide"to fight them.Nah,Eubank didn`t have the stomach to fight Toney or Jones,Benn might of though.
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Is this really true?

I haven't heard that he outright said it would be suicide to fight them.

atberry · Jul 2, 2013

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1cLwJgLQmA[/url]

Jon Saxon · Jul 2, 2013

atberry said: ↑

Former WBO middleweight/super-middleweight crown-holder from 1990 to 1995, and Global Sports Star and British Celebrity, Chris Eubank Senior was one of the slickest and most efficient boxers on the circuit in the 90s -- often able to win fights with a very low out-put based on a slippery, backfoot style, punching accuracy and pleasing aesthetics.

We discuss technical aspects of boxing with Mr Eubank himself exclusively for NowBoxing.Com. Enjoy!

NB: Chris, first of all, who trained you initially the basics of boxing?

CE: A gentleman by the name of Andy Martinez in the Bronx, New York. He didn't have the knowledge to teach me how to pivot correctly when throwing the left hook or how to throw body punches. But I had learned the basic jab and right hand, how to stand, how to move, how to catch and counter, how to slip and counter. The basics.

NB: Did you have another trainer following this or did you go straight to Ronnie Davies?

CE: I had half-a-dozen trainers in New York before I went to Ronnie Davies and took bits from each of them: How to pivot, how to side-step, how to bob-and-weave, all the punches, all the angles.

Most trainers are specialists in one area, it's one reason I beat Nigel Benn in 1990 -- he had yet to have a multitude of technical trainers, so he didn't have many tricks up his sleeve. Another reason I beat him was because he had yet to discover the church, whereas I grew up in the church and was heavily involved in the church in New York when I was learning boxing.

NB: Do you remember the names of your early coaches?

CE: Martinez and the main one, Maximo, were the ones at Jerome gym, my main gym. When I trained at the Bronxchester gym it was Luis Camacho and Lenny DeJesus. When I trained at the Gleasons gym, it was Pat Versace and Patrick Ford. They took me to these different gyms for different sparring when they wanted a rangey, speedy guy who could move.

NB: When did Ronnie Davies take over?

CE: Ronnie took over, so to speak, when I moved to Brighton in 1988. But he'll be the first to tell you that I taught him more than he taught me. It was actually me coaching him to be a better coach after all I had learned in New York City, what I employed Ronnie Davies as was a supervisor.

NB: Fascinating! Who were the best guys you sparred in your early days?

CE: Alex Ramos in 1984 at Bronxchester and Merqui Sosa in 1987 at Gleasons gymnasium were heavy-hitting, rough, tough fighters. Johnny Walker Banks, who Hagler used as his sparring partner, used to batter me in the gym, as did an army boxer who never turned pro by the name of Kevin Bryant. I would say all of those guys were better brawlers than someone like Iran Barkley, who made champion and became a millionaire.

As far as who was the best boxer, Dennis Milton was very good in 1985, and Errol Christie in England had no weakness whatsoever when wearing head gear and using 18oz gloves. But the best was Herol Graham in Sheffield when I had about a dozen pro fights and was still a novice -- he was World number-one and taught me a lot about myself, technically.

A hard, strong fellow called Milton Guest was the guy I sparred most in New York. I sparred so many guys, most of them I can't remember their names. It was out-and-out warfare in New York gyms, guys who were supposed to be tough guys would leave Jerome gym on a stretcher, in an ambulance, crying.

NB: Fascinating stuff, Chris! What would you say was your best technical performance in the ring prior to your world championship fights?

CE: Les Wiskinewski.

NB: And the best performance of your championship reign as far as technical boxing skill?

CE: The second (Carl) Thompson fight was one. I used it to showcase as much skill as I could, knowing I was coming to the end and not wanting all I had learned and mastered to go to waste kind of thing -- out-jabbing him, bobbing-and-weaving, anchoring my feet with every punch, left uppercuts, right hooks, slipping, side-stepping, stutter-stepping, you name it.

NB: How do you rate your performances against Nigel Benn?

CE: From a skill standpoint? Not as good as I expected them to be, because in the first fight I was taken aback by the maniac-type pace and pressure, not to mention the earth-shattering power when he managed to land -- he struck me harder than a cruiserweight in Thompson; and because in the second fight he never once kept his head and body still, which required unbelievable stamina. Benn was a bit special, not from a technical standpoint but from a physical standpoint.

NB: You are often accused of as a fighter who couldn't fight going forwards, only backwards or sideways to statically, what would you say to these critics?

CE: What nonsense is this? I won the world championship by going forwards, throwing punches on the front foot. There was a fight against Dan Sherry in which I chose to not fight front-footed and close the gap, due to loose canvas on the ring. But against master mover Ron Essett, in a chess match of footwork, I was closing the gap perfectly.

It's a skill I had from my earliest days training, in fact I never lost to a boxer-mover type as an amateur. I did change my fighting stance in the late eighties however when I was taught the weight distribution used in many martial arts, which was 97.5% on the back foot, where you are always in a position to skip out of range.

NB: How do you rate your performances against Michael Watson?

CE: The first one showed a lot of sublime skill on my behalf. Some razor sharp reflexes and razor sharp timing, especially in the first five to seven rounds; the ninth showed some complex short shots that Michael very well to stay up from. That was the first fight. The second fight, I didn't really get a chance to show my arsenal because he was on me like a rash, all over me, and didn't let up for 11 rounds straight, requiring phenomenal stamina. He was also the only opponent to ever bully me up-close, in this second fight, more so than a cruiserweight in Thompson even.

NB: How do you rate your performances against Graciano Rocchigiani and Henry Wharton in 1994?

CE: Technically correct in accordance to what they brought to the table. Mr Rocchigiani held his hands high, so the idea was to keep his hands high with light, fast shots upstairs followed by hard, accurate shots downstairs to the gaps behinds the elbows. You have to move your hands away from your face to throw punches, which is why I would always hold my gloves together at stomach-height, always in a position to counter-punch, or making it very difficult for opponents to read what punch was going to lead off.

Mr Wharton was a pressure fighter and powerful puncher, so the idea was to throw fast, accurate jabs to blind his vision and mix in body shots with the combinations to slow him down. He didn't slow down, so it was a very, very hard fight, requiring a lot of sharp countering on my behalf. Mr Wharton trebled the left hook punch as well as anyone I've ever seen, so I had to keep my wits about me and keep the right hand cupped to that side of the forehead and elbow covering the body, or he may have got me out of there.
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"I would've ended careers of Toney/RJJ"
It doesn't say that you trolling dumbass.

HEADBANGER · Jul 2, 2013

CubanLinx said: ↑

LMAO

Eubank would get bodied by both Toney and Jones if they fought. No ****ing way is he ending either of their careers.

Delusional brits really think they're hurting something
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:nut :roflatsch

Take the blinkers off you HBO / Ring Magazine puppet :deal

Jon Saxon · Jul 2, 2013

Eubank would have gave Toney serious trouble at ANY weight.

Mind Reader · Jul 2, 2013

Mind Reader said: ↑

Is this really true?

I haven't heard that he outright said it would be suicide to fight them.
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Just watched the whole video..

Eubank- "why would I want to fight a fighter like Roy Jones in his prime? Suicide"

Ok, end this delusional thread..

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