:rofl yeah because that was a prime Calzaghe at 175 lbs. This forum is becoming fukkin ******ed again.
How did I make it personal? Perhaps for a career high payday of £3m?? Why should Hopkins entertain a no mark contender in Morrade Hakkar for £300k instead? So you criticise his opposition, yet at the same time acknowledge that he was looking for bigger fights with the likes of Hopkins? Have a look at this [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3163285.stm[/url] Another example of what can Joe do if these guys don't want to face him When should he have fought Liles? He had a fight scheduled with Echols, who pulled out. Danny Green was a novice back then, if Joe beat him it would be another cherry pick. Don't forget, Ottke won his titles in complete robberies against Mitchell and Brewer (Top SMW's of the era), Joe then beat both of these guys clearly. Reid also went on to get robbed by Ottke, Joe beat him clearly before. For money! Do me a favour, and go look at some of the 'questionable opposition' that Hopkins defended his MW Title against. He turned down £3m to face Calzaghe, and instead fought Hakkar for £300k. Don't forget Bernard's legendary trilogy with Robert Allen. Why should he have entertained these guys, for less money!? Go look at who Roy Jones defended his LHW title against atsch
because he was waiting for a response, and was prepared to take another fight in the interim to keep chasing a HOF entry (which is just as important as big money in his view). He categorically, blatantly and clearly never said no, so your argument is failed. you've not stopped using that failed argument as you were told to. the price is your credibility, I am afraid.
he was 36 having come off his two best victories ever when he went to LH, thats at the very least just postprime, whereas 40+ is nearshot, so you seem to be referring to yourself there with the mentally challenged chromosome mutations. keep it up.
He came back the next day and demanded the double the money. The price of this silly post is your credibility, I am afraid :hi:
that makes no difference to the stone cold fact that Bhop did not turn down the fight once, not even for several months or years, nor for a split second, yet you continue to claim he turned down the fight ie you claim something happened that clearly did not. sorry that you are on a downward spiral with your credibility now. its up to you whether you continue it or not.
whatever word you want to use to describe the facts, you cant claim something that didnt happen. thats lying. Thats strictly Bailey territory. If its actually true that you really really dont understand what I am telling you, imagine you are selling a house for £3 million. You want a better deal on reevalution, and ask for 6 million the next day. The buyer now has months, even years to decide if they want to give you 6 million for it. Does that mean you should NOT sell your car for £500,000 in the meantime? If you disagree, tell me why you shouldnt sell your car in the meantime, when you are holding out to gain another £3 million by simply waiting for a response? Tell me why you should NOT gain 6 million AND £500,000 by just waiting for a better deal.
fair enough you have no answer, likely becasue you know for a fact that Bhop did not turn down Calzaghe already. At least you arent lying to yourself, only to us.
Did you not look it up? Don't waste my time with your response, until you understand the basics of contract negotiation :hi:
So demanding double your agreed purse the very next day is now simply an innovative way of "negotiating". Fantastic. I just wonder why no other boxer has tried it in the 10 years since then.
why did you assume that wedont knowwhat it means? I agree that answering my question with another question of your own helps you avoid telling us where your non-existent evidence for Bhop turning down the Calzaghe fight comes from.
are you sure no other boxer has tried in the last ten years? You seem very willing to bank your rep of your statement on that, and you seem to have all the offers made by all boxers in the world in the last ten years at your fingertips. Now thats a better definition of 'fantasy'.