Eubank`s sparring partner says Degale will expose Eubank`s flaws

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Chris`s sparring parther stated: 'There`s a lot of things Chris struggled with. Degale will expose that.' Why does Jr refuse to try and learn fundamentals?
     
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  2. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fundamentals? Nahh, he’s above all that. Too glamorous, too Eubank.

    Another thing to mention is that, typically, sparring partners help to hype up the fighter who’s camp they are/were in. Not this guy though, wonder why that is.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Denis Douglin wasn't just CEJ's sparring partner the later actually let him stay in house with him for six weeks while he was in camp with him

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    Here's Douglin taking a soak in CEJ's Jacuzzi after a rigorous 'session' with him

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  4. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably because like almost everyone else who works with him/them, they end up detesting the Eubanks. And that's from a Sr fan.
     
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  5. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A brawler with low power facing a boxer should only end one way. Can CEJ force his style and work rate on Degale. Can James be calm and busy enough to take advantage of Chris's flaws.

    There's no way Chris can go from one fight to another and change his bad habits.
     
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  6. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What I've never understood is: Why didn't Sr teach him about using jabs? It still confuses me and I'm sure it confuses everybody else as well. Sr knows the game, surely he would have pointed out that a jab is crucial to closing down distance and setting up power shots.

    The whole reason Jr can't mix it with the elites is because of precisely that, and it's stupid of Sr to just let him throw punches at bags and pads for the last 20 years. He could have been so much more.
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    To have the ring name NEXTGEN and to come up so short... its embarrasing... if he loses this... my god.

    He'll be ridiculed for the rest of his life.
     
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  8. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My family wouldnt even consider allowing me to compete until I was fundamentally sound(for my age and novice expeeience group) and had mastered the jab as best as I possibly could have and knew and understood all of its possible uses, roles, and advantages it presented me. Also, before allowing me to compete I had to prove my basic fundamentals, technique, footwork, and basic skills repeatedly against numerous different sparring partners all with different styles and ability, but most of all I had to repeatedly prove my jab and all of its uses and ways of employing it above all else.

    For people who have never boxed -- certain people are just more inclined to developing skill, proper technique, fundamentals, footwork, and defensive reaponsibility faster and easier than others and everyone has their own natural tendencies, style, and strengths and weaknesses and have a very difficult time with certain punches, skills, techniques, fundamentals, footwork, and defensive responsibilities. I mean some people just can't pick up certain things no matter what and can only fight a very specific way.

    I can't imagine Sr. Completely disregarding and disrespecting time tested and proven basics while raising and training Jr. Ive seen guys like him before in regards to the fact that no matter how he was taught and trained growing up, he was just born with some very positive physical and athletic attributes and knows of only one way of fighting, which is solely relying on those gifts and talents, while being completely unable and inept at picking up, understanding, developing, and employing some very basic but extremely important skills and fundamentals. Look at Sergio Martinez -- the epitome of THE fighter NOT to mirror and mimic. He basically took the boxing 101 book and drew a massive, hairy, and veiny pair of **** and balls on the cover of it, gave it the middle finger, and threw it in a burning fire. Never in a million years would I believe he was trained and taught to fight how he did, specially the #1 cardinal sin -- fighting with your hands down. But he had some unique and rare athletic gifts and natural talent and im sure he actually was a better overall fighter with his style and couldnt fight any other way, probably couldnt even understand the concept of basic fundamentals and their value. Guys like him though -- they are the EXTREMELY rare exception.
     
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  9. Vigilance777

    Vigilance777 Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't Groves already expose CEJ? This doesn't need to be discussed anymore haha
     
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  10. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt Degale possesses the skills necessary to flat out embarrass toung christopher and aend him to time out face down on the canvas. Degale's skills, talent, and athletic ability have never been a question or reason for concern, to the contrary actually, he has had all of those in an almost greedy abundance.

    Basing the outcome of this fight and how it plays out on that is absurd though, especially considering it's ****ing DEGALE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE!!!!! All of Degales shortcomings and weaknesses have been intangible. I cant think of aNY fighter that would be more maddening, confusing, and more of an enigma for said fighters biggest fans and supporters. Hes actually a lot like Amir Khan in that regard -- supremely skilled, gifted, and athletic, who when focused is a nightmare or worse for anyone in his division but lacks the intangibles for that to ever happen against world-class opposition more than 1-3 times in their entire careers and instead fall short numerous times against guys that shouldnt have even been in the ring with them solely based on those special gifts and attributes they had. They are the two biggest mental enigma's I have seen in boxing in the last 20 years. I mean the two of them in all reality are probably severly mentally handicapped in many ways and their PR guys just did as good a job of covering that up as possible.

    But that's what makes this fight so intriguing, if Degale shows up on poi t, focused, and doesn't have a single brain fast in-fight, young Christpher is getting sonned badly. If Degale shows up and fights more to his norm, the exact opposite outcome probably happens. I cant predict a winner or what will happen, but I'm almost 100% sure that the winner absolutely works the loser probably into retirement.
     
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  11. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not sure about CEJ retiring, he seems to enjoy the whole show and I think he enjoys a tear up.

    Agree about Degale even if he wins I can't see him boxing in 2 yrs time and if he loses to Eubank Jr I don't think he should be fighting anyway.
     
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  12. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep he is just a UK version of a Chavez Jr, getting a big push because of his name but deluded and disappoints
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    You are correct, but Sr was always a vague minded boxer, kind of I`ll throw a jab here and there because he felt it was right in that situation, he was never a great believer in fundamentals himself.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I agree but Chavez Sr was far better P4P than Eubank Sr ever was, he was something else, there`s no way Chavez Jr could ever compare to his dad, that`s a little unfair, but Eubank Jr could have gone a long way to being as good as his dad, he`s got the same reflexes.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I can`t see Jr competing for world titles in 2 years either the way he`s fighting, he`s going to pick up too many losses like Broner but worse.