Eubank Sr on Froch-Groves II

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Former WBO king Chris Eubank was involved in his share of rematches in his 90s career, so knows what Carl Froch and George Groves are feeling amid their highly anticipated rematch on May 31.

    "I was involved in as many world title rematches as anyone ever, equal with Sugar Ray Robinson and one more than (Muhammad) Ali, and all were European rivalries.

    "So I might be the best to ask for regarding a prediction for this (Froch-Groves II) and looking at the fighters psyches!"

    Eubank feels Froch underestimated Groves last time out.

    "It's strange because when I fought a man more than once, I always did better in the first fight than the second fight, because my superiority would cause the opponent to go away and prepare even harder and myself to take the foot off the pedal, knowing I already had the measure of the man.

    "But Groves humiliated the champion last time out, though he didn't win, and now the champion may come back with the eye of the tiger, having already possibly underprepared, as in psychologically as much or more than physically."

    Is Eubank surprised at the public demand for their second fight?

    "Not at all. The champions and even the contenders fight once every six months in this day and age, so when the fights finally come along, the public don't want to miss them.

    "They've became niche events for young male sports fans. And of course, controversy is great for boxing, (it's) what keeps it ticking. Without controversy, boxing would go under.

    "And there was great controversy when the referee stopped the last fight for no apparent reason with three and a bit rounds to go and Groves supposedly a mile ahead on points.

    "It's what drew 16 million viewers on ITV for my second fight with Michael Watson, because every celebrity out there was suggesting it was a robbery the first time around.

    "That night we sold 25,000 tickets at £75 a head when the average wage packet was £100 a week, when they could so easily have watched for free."

    Technically, can Froch out-box Groves and, physically, can Groves stop or last 12 with Froch?

    "Froch out-boxed Groves in the first round before walking onto a right hand at the end of it. So yes he can out-box him with the rangey, angled jab, but what he can't do is cross his feet into right hands with his chin out to dry!

    "Anybody can be knocked out, even me! This is human fact. A well-trained professional boxer should be able to strike with at least a tonne of force. So either of them can be knocked out or stopped before the end of the 12th round."

    Ultimately, who will come out victorious?

    "In the back of Groves' mind, he must be thinking, 'I hit this guy with everything I had, and the guy kept coming after me.' I couldn't have rematched Henry Wharton, knowing he would spend 12 rounds bruising my body and head.

    "He has felt the strength of Froch and knows Froch can hurt him. In that sense it is similar to me against Ray Close the second time. Groves must be commended greatly for taking this fight when he could've gone other routes to titles.

    "If Groves has improved in the six months between the fights, it might be tilted in his favour. He's still young and probably making improvements. Froch won't be getting any better at age 36.

    "In that respect, if it goes the distance, Groves would win. If Groves hasn't improved and Froch is more focussed to not make amateurish mistakes with his positioning, you would lean towards Froch on the evidence of the first fight."
     
  2. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eubank is a wise man, he been there and done it :good
     
  3. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    simply the best can't've got the memo stating froch had zero success prior to the stoppage.
     
  4. Redman

    Redman Active Member Full Member

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    Froch did have success, he started to have bits of success in the 7th, 8th and then the 9th he Groves hurt bad prior to the stoppage.

    To say he had no success at all is simply not the truth, I'd turn off the shite commentating and actually watch the fight.
     
  5. Westy78

    Westy78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say froch landed more shots then he got credited for in the first fight.. but only a few were reallly flush compared to the 40 then Groves landed
     
  6. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    'Staring to have success' - is used because for 6 rounds he was being embarrassed. The 'success' he was having was not enough to win the rounds in any case and he should have been well behind on the cards until Foster ruined the fight.
     
  7. Westy78

    Westy78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes he should have been well behind, the score cards were a disgrace...
     
  8. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    i know, i was taking the **** outta the halfwits who claim otherwise. you can do damage and lose the round, those rights to the ribcage musta hurt.

    watched it in the pub minus any commentary.
     
  9. Westy78

    Westy78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats got to be Froch's strategy for the second fight, hurt him to the body. He did this in the first fight but nowhere near enough.
     
  10. Redman

    Redman Active Member Full Member

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    Oh soz kid, I thought you were being serious.
     
  11. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    yeah, i reckon that's what he meant pre-fight when he said he was gonna take gg's jab away from him. after the kd though, he didn't really look with it and the plan went out the window. incredibly tough *******.
     
  12. boxfanlut

    boxfanlut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't agree froch out boxed gg first round
     
  13. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    It's easier said than done, especially when you have a faster, stronger and more powerful punching opponent in front of you.
     
  14. Westy78

    Westy78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very true, but when he tried he was succesful first fight, thats why I do believe GG was starting to gas around round 8

    The other tactic for Froch is he can't stand off him like last fight, he must bridge the gap and make it more of an inside fight and a far rougher fight.
     
  15. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    no issue, you ain't the 1st!