Eubank Sr picks Louis over Ali

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chris Eubank Snr was one of the most colourful characters to ever box. Replying via email, Eubank Snr takes the time to answer questions and give a tribute to the legendary Marvin Hagler.


    On the subject of whether he remembered fighters like Riddick Bowe in his days in New York:

    I sparred 80 or 90 rounds with Riddick Bowe in the Lunar Boxing Club, NYC in 84. He was middleweight, I was light middle. He was there with friend Webster and brothers Robert Burton and Richard Burton who were friends with Mike Tyson and Mark Breland. I would travel with my friend Felipe, a three times Golden Gloves champ. We would all spar together along with three or four others there

    [editors note: Webster Vinson, Felipe Parilla]


    Hero? Marley as a child. Mandela as an adult.

    Boxing hero? Mike Tyson.

    First boxing memory? My brothers training in the house when I was 7.

    Favourite fight? Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling II, or Pernell vs Nazario for the beautiful body punching.

    Best opponent faced? By far, Michael Watson in our second fight.

    Hardest puncher faced? Nigel Benn.

    Best performance? Germany vs Graciano. In terms of being punch perfect.

    Best fighter today? Saul. A throwback.

    Best fight ever seen? Watson vs Eubank II. The fight had everything.

    Best fighter ever seen? The best defensively was Herol Graham. The best offensively was Roy. The best overall is Duran because the best skill is to offensively defend.


    Prediction of Joshua v Fury:

    I would pick Joe Louis to beat Ali because I’m an old school purist.

    Think about it mathematically. -If Louis stepped with the jab he would have Ali on the ropes within two jabs, then comes a left hook if Muhammad moves to his right or a right hand if Muhammad moves to his left.

    If AJ can learn how to step with the jab instead of just putting it out there then he beats my friend Tyson Fury because these men have long legs. Whether he has enough time to learn that after being fast tracked remains to be seen.

    The wish must be for both men to remain undamaged. Winning and losing are imposters & draws are Godsends.


    Thoughts on Marvin Hagler who sadly passed recently:

    ‘Marvelous’ Marvin Hagler was a blueprint. This man had no Olympic backing. He never took days off, you never heard him convey foul language and there was no quit in him. Integrity. Dignity.

    What the East Coast hotbed did was it fortifies you when you come on through. He was proof that the darker the tunnel the brighter the light at the end of it.

    The universe lost a true warrior. RIP Mr Hagler


    On the subject of his son working with the great Roy Jones Jnr for his upcoming May 1st bout:

    What Roy is learning Christopher is to be loose and relaxed. Roy was a master of this in his prime. They both have speed and combinations and fathers who boxed, so there is a synergy between them and that will breed success I believe.
     
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  2. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Nothing wrong with that pick
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sounds like the smart money pick to me
     
  4. SheenLantern

    SheenLantern Active Member Full Member

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    Ali for three reasons:

    1. Joe struggled against movers, Ali is the best mover of all time.

    2. Ali beat multiple all-time greats, Louis never fought anyone remotely on Ali's level.

    3. Ali has the size AND speed advantage, this is a potentially insurmountable combination if you know how to take advantage of it, and Ali certainly did.

    Ali by UD or late stoppage (Louis' chin was only average).
     
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  5. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I don't see Louis beating Ali

    Bad style matchup for Louis
     
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  6. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    I like how Eubank is an unapologetic Old school “purist” he would fit in well here- haha.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a perfectly fine choice, Louis is one of the very few who could beat peak Ali.
     
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  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I could listen to this guy talk all day
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    As great as he was, Louis is an absolute legend, he loses imo to Ali. It's an awful matchup for the Bomber. Think Billy Conn magnified by an hundred!
     
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  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Conn didn't dance like Ali throughout the fight and he didn't try to outjab Louis - which Ali would definitely try to do.
     
  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Think Joe Frazier and Ken Norton magnified.
     
  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was taught in The Bronx in the early 80s by the same trainers who taught Alex Ramos. Also old heads like Pat Versace. Fought ‘smokers’ at Nelson Cuevas’ gym at 16 etc. Had a mentor who lived through the Mob.
     
  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    But would still be same out come imo.
     
  14. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There’s no way Ali stays away from Louis for 15 rounds. Louis hit much harder than Cooper or Frazier, jabbed much better than Doug Jones or Norton.
     
  15. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m Ali’s biggest fan but have no issue with anyone picking the great Joe Louis over him.