Eubank v Colllins

I think they do damage his legacy. Especially considering how well he performed against Thomson and Calzaghe afterwards. His legacy and pride is revolved around being one of the best in his weight class at that time.

But Collins did him, twice. However he was still capable of giving a good cruiser weight all he could handle and testing the young lion.

What does this mean? I think it means that Collins was very good, but Eubank wasn't as good as his persona made out. He should have finished Collins. I don't think he was prepared at that time in his career to dig in (he was the TV favourite) and was used to rolling to easy points wins on ITV. Collins wasn't, he was the first decent operator with ambition that Eubank had come up against for a while and he got done.

It was also played out twice with the same result. To be truthful what it really shows is how good Steve Collins was. I would rather fight cancer than fight that man!

 

Why damage his legacy? He was an outstanding fighter who lost 2 very close decisions to another excellent fighter, big deal.

 

Obviously it does damage his legacy somewhat. If he had beaten Collins his legacy would be slightly enhanced. You can't really say winning or losing makes no difference to legacy, unless he is completely shot a la Toney or RJJ today.

 

Of course it damaged his legacy, not so much the first fight but the second one - if Eubank avenged the loss and fought one, final fight with Roy Jones where he went out on his shield over 12 (or dare I say it, even possibly knocked Jones out), it would've been great for his standing.

 

Collin's exposed the hype that surroud Benn, Eubank and Watson. Collin's wasn't all that in America and saw the money to be made in Britain. He rolled into town and beat the best of the three in Eubank when Eubank was still in his prime and 29 years old.

Collin's put a pin ***** in the British middleweight/super middleweight bubble of that era.


Calzaghe was a much superior fighter to any of them.

 

Calzaghe fought nobody for 10 years, once a year against Tocker Pudwill and clearly lost to Robin Reid. Give me a break. Eubank and Benn were far greater.

 

Collins was a hard man with ambition. Good fighter, he got to Benn and Eubank twice, good fights at the right time. I enjoyed his fights.

 

Collins beat Benn twice and Eubank twice.
This was after taking Chris Pyatts middleweight title.
He then moved up to super middle and beat them both twice.
Yet all you hear on here is how Benn and Eubank were superior to him.
I was there at the time and Collins exposed them both for the hype jobs they were.
Legends my arse.

 

There's no doubt the Watson experience messed with Eubank's head and I remember watching the first Collins fight and thinking he was holding back. The hypnosis bollox was a low tactic by Collins.

 

Almost Killing Watson changed Eubank as a fighter, he would have beaten Collins IMO if he hadn't done what he did to Watson. VS Thompson he seemed to think twice about pulling the trigger as well at times.

There;s still an argument that Eubank beat Collins in at least one of those fights, both were really close but its been years since I've watched them. Might have to re watch them.

 

Benn never lost to an American and Benn was done by the time Collins fought him.Eubank was still a very good fighter though in his fights with Collins so they were legit great wins for him.

 

Eubank clearly won the first Collins fight, and would've if not for ref screwing him (with KD's uncounted/counted).