Eubank v James Toney @160lbs..

Very glad to see people giving Eubank his due. I too think Eubank has what it takes to beat Toney. Here's what I wrote concerning this fight on another thread:

Pre-Watson Eubank has a very good chance of beating Toney IMO. The thing with Eubank after the Watson tragedy was, not only did he lost that "killer instinct" of his, you can see a noticeable decline on his activity and workrate all together as well. There are rounds in alot of his fights where he just wouldn't go to work(unless he's forced to).

Pre-Watson Eubank was a different fighter altogether. Constantly looks for openings and when he sees it, attacks with full force. Puts combinations very beautifully and, because of his unorthodox stance, he has one of the sneakiest punch I've ever seen. His straight right was just so sneaky that you just couldn't consistently predict when it will be thrown at you. He throws it at any angle and even when he's out of position for crying out loud. And all of that, with deadly accuracy. I also liked the way he actively creates angles of his own by doing feints. He was just a different animal back then. Not to mention he has pretty good reflexes and dodging skills as well.

Toney would undoubtedly be the favorite. He beats post-Watson Eubank in a very competitive UD. Against the pre-Watson one, I don't think Lights Out beats him convincingly and really think it could go either way, both at 160 and 168. Most here have and will pick Toney but I just think that version of Eubank has what it takes to beat a very formidable Toney.

Just my 2 cents.. :good

 

Yeah the poll is pretty close!

 

Roy Jones would have outclassed chris 'Simply The Fake' Eubank period.

 

Great clip.

The funniest thing about that clip, to me, is how much larger James Toney is now (and mostly not in a good way) and also how much bigger Mickey Rourke is (from a lot of, uh, 'supplements'). They both look like sticks in that clip compared to their relative sizes today.

It was great to remember what a lean, focused Toney looked like.

 

Like people have said pre watson eubank was a great fighter and new what he had to do when he had a fighter in trouble and they would be finished. Not seen toney at 160 so can't make a comment about him.

 

does anyone else ever wonder why this is a 'what if' fight instead of it actually happening?

yep, i'm going to repeat myself again.....

but maybe i don't need to....

since we'll have the "calzaghe versus jones (or hopkins)" prime thread in a few years

or the "witter versus mayweather"

enzo - hopkins

froch - blabla...

come on....


instead of making a thread like this ask yourself why there's a common theme between european fighters who never fought their higher profile counterparts.

i know i'm going to have to repeat myself every time i come on here, but come on....

 

i'd say Eubank was World class mate, as would many others.

 

which leads me back to the point i was trying to make.

please read my post again.

i know it's cynical but it rubs you the wrong way on here when you keep hearing all the "what if" threads for talented british fighters.

i'm not trying to belittle them - i just wish they'd have chased their glory instead of having their fans defend it for them.

 

It's not just talented British fighter......Aaron Pryor vs. Ray Leonard is a fight that gets bandied about quite a bit, could've happened, one accused of ducking the other etc etc. is that different just because it's two American fighters?