Holyfield was written off after Bowe and came back and beat contenders and became champ again. Hopkins was beaten by Taylor written off, retired, came back moved up to LHW and became champ again, then lost to calzaghe, then written off again and came back and beat Pavlik. Eubank was beaten by Collins 2, written off, retired, came back fought and beat 2 bums, fought and lost for the vacant WBO title against Calzaghe, then got beaten up by Thompson at CW twice, then retired for good. Now how you going to compare Holyfield, and Hopkins who after being written off, proved the critics wrong by winning a belt again to Eubank who got written off and never won a world title again? If you want to make a comparison please use an analogy that is similar in more or less every way. The comparison you made is false because in one situation the person becomes champion again after being written off, and in the other scenario the person never wins a fight at world class level, let alone a world title.
very good point. the fact is that just because a great fighter like eubank looked good against mediocre competition after calzaghe doesn't mean he was even close to prime. by the way, for all the talk about the thompson fights, who won those? thompson was never much to begin with and frankly, without the haye win we wouldn't really be talking about him much other than as another exciting british fighter. the fact that eubank LOST those fights speaks volumes about how far he dropped
Yep, the same way Roy got starched twice, UD'd badly by Tarver, looked good against one bum, fought one bum close, couldn't put away a blown up WW that had not fought in 3 years, but somehow Calzaghe and his fans use those three wins to justify Roy was still a top fighter. As well as the fact him somehow still being a ring top 10 LHW (though he had not won a signifying fight their in almost 5 years), I hear that one all the time. They must have been really liking when Roy beat the two shot fighters in Lacy and Sheika after his loss to Calzaghe, but Danny Green ruined that theory as well.:yep
oh don't worry, if roy beat up on iran barkley tomorrow they'd be saying he beat the man who beat tommy hearns twice and is back on top
for a reasonable comparison i could say that roy beat the best mike mccallum the world has ever seen. it would be about as ridiculous
I do think Eubank was not near as shot as Roy was when Calzaghe fought him, but he was clearly past it in my opinion. But a better win for Calzaghe than Roy was.
2006: RJJ is ranked number 7 in the Ring LHW top 10 (beats a guy called Prince Badi) 2007: RJJ no longer in the Ring LHW top 10 (Beats a guy called Hanshaw) 2008: RJJ back in the Ring LHW top 10, ranked 6 (Beats Trinidad) I dont understand how that worked, RJJ wasnt in the top10 LHW but once he beat Anthony Hanshaw he is top 10 LHW again, and that justify's Calzaghe beating prime RJJ?
Yeah, I never understood that either. I think Roy must have been rated too highly probably because of his past, and his name just makes you want to give him the benefit of the doubt and push him up a couple spots. I have not seen a top 10 LHW performance out of him since 03. I have read not only Calzaghe beat a prime RJJ but a shot Calzaghe beat a prime RJJ And also I have read a green Calzaghe beat a prime Eubank.atsch I even like Calzaghe but comments like those are just absurd. Many people try way too hard to make him seem like he was greater than he actually was.
If calzaghe gets no credit for beating eubank up, then why do people keep saying roy and eubank should have fought.
It was a very good win for calz, he was unproven and eubank was a quality operator who had aged. he werent a shell but anyone seeing the fight knows he werent prime. he shouldnt get knocked for it, most fighters take on faded former champs.