Eubank vs Collins in 1991?

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  1. ed7890

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    Laz has leveled out a lot as a poster, but he was a pain in the ass when he first started, and still is at times.

    Tell that to the Calzaghe fans
     
  2. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This. Collins lunged in with his hands and feet wide, chin up and winged arms... Eubank's straight sneak overarm down the pipe would crack him on the chin sharply quite a fair few times.
     
  3. Lee Mc

    Lee Mc Boxing Addict banned

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    Collins vs a Pre-Watson would have got embarrassed.

    A crude fighter against the Eubank of old would have lost rather easily.
     
  4. ApatheticLeader

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    Yep, Collins would have overrun Eubank, and probably quite easily. I don't really see how Eubank stands a chance.
     
  5. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    Pssst, a little secret:

    There's no discernible difference between the Eubank of old and the post-Watson Eubank. None. At all.
     
  6. TBooze

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    Even if that were true (which it is not), there was a huge difference bwtween 1991 Collins and the Collins that stepped into the ring with Eubank. And even then it took everything Collins had to edge the decision...
     
  7. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    That's true, the 91 version of Collins was superior.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL, cutie want to be Collins trying to fight 90/91 Eubank...

    Collins is going to do well to still be on his feet after 12 rounds.

    As mentioned it took further defeats to Johnson and Kalambay to round off Collins pro schooling to the point he was capable of competing with the likes of Chris Eubank, so Collins is not even a viable threat for Eubank until after the Pyatt fight.
     
  9. ApatheticLeader

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    Yeah, that really is a load of twaddle. The unjusitfied love Eubank and Benn gets compared to the superior Collins really gets on my nerves. If Collins can consistently counter a superior fighter in Reggie Johnson while in the main coming forward, he sure can do it against a Eubank who even then got counterpunched badly by Watson. Early Collins is so underrated by people here it's not even funny.
     
  10. Lee Mc

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    psst,

    yes there is....

    Check out Eubank vs Thompson and tell me that the Eubank of 1991 would have let Thompson of the hook when he had him beat...
     
  11. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You'd have to be borderline ******ed to suggest there was no difference between the pre and post Watson 'versions' of Eubank.

    He led with rights, hooks and uppercuts to head pre and led with jabs and body shots post. He threw leaping combos pre and threw planted combos post. He came in from angles pre and stayed long post.

    He was completely different.
     
  12. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    bye-bye :hi: you pathetic leader of zero apathy
     
  13. Lee Mc

    Lee Mc Boxing Addict banned

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    The bloke is talking bollocks but this isn't instant messenger :roll: At least give him a few hours before suggesting that he is ducking your comments
     
  14. ApatheticLeader

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    He did all of that afterwards as well - just not very well in regards to his always slow and often sloppy right hand and seldom landing (but pretty) uppercut. Also, more often than not he led with the jab anyway pre-Watson. His (good) jab to the head and his (poor/slow) jab to the body. He was more of a combination puncher pre-Watson, but he wasn't actually much more effective.

    Leaping combos? Oh dear. I don't know what to tell you. On the other hand, I was a big fan of his left hook to the body.

    Face it, the man was fur coat and no knickers. Get over yourself atberry, and get a clue.
     
  15. ApatheticLeader

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    I'll never duck anyone in a Eubank related discussion, or any discussion for that matter. If I'm shown to be wrong, I'll admit that I'm wrong, and move on. It's no big deal.

    But in regards to Eubank, I'm generally right. And by "generally" I mean "always".