Eubank's training

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by atberry, Feb 13, 2010.


  1. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    From his old forum!


    30min stretching,
    15min shadow boxing,
    Six to 12 rounds pad and bag work,
    Three rounds speed ball, Then
    20 to 30 minutes skipping,
    Then 50 or 60 sit ups and finish with 20 hits to the stomach with a med ball.

    Closer to a fight routine changed slightly to 30min stretching, 30min shadow boxing, then sit ups, then three to 8 rounds of heavy sparring, then speed ball and skipping.

    The routine was a 5-day week but running was seven days a week in the early mornings and the route 7.8 miles.

    *Stretching included backbends, splits to be loosened up and have flexibility as a extra major tool,
    *Shadow boxing was to work on movement and combinations not to just warm-up,
    *Pads were great for target practice and working on specific shots,
    *Bag work was good for strength and stamina,
    *Sparring was the main part of training and the idea was to get good at absorbing punishment, so the harder the better and more the better.

    Sparring was not completed until one day before fight night. The routine started again the Monday after each fight.


    Chris
     
  2. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    My advise is that sparring is the best training. The more the better!

    Don't use most of your energy on the bags or shadow boxing use your main energy in the ring sparring other fighters. That's when you learn. If you get beat up don't worry, that is where you are learning most.


    Chris
     
  3. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sparring all the time isn't going to do you any good
     
  4. amy

    amy If you know what I mean Full Member

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  5. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the best way I can explain it, it's like football (american). Scrimmaging (practice game) is no doubt very important, but if that's all you do instead of lifting weights, running etc. Then there is no point.
     
  6. atberry

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    I'm going to have to agree with Eubank.

    What use is a floor-to-ceiling bag, incline bench press or sprints when the bell rings at fight-time? You only learn to box in the ring ffs.

    It worked for Eubank.

    The only exceptions are one-in-a-million like Roy Jones or Nigel Benn.

    Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran and all Kronk fighters sparred a phenonemal ammount; I mean hundreds of rounds a month, every month, for years and years.
     
  7. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    I always wondered what he meant about sparring till the day before a fight. Surely it was tapered down still and he was just having a move for a few rounds ?

    Also, Benn didnt like sparring ?

    Liked to save it, i thought i read somewhere.
     
  8. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol pro fighters only train a few months a year, and don't start sparring until they get into shape. I also know they sure as hell don't spar the week before a fight, atleast not hard anyways.
     
  9. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't understand how some in this thread feel the presumption to condescend the training advice of a successful pro champion boxer
     
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  10. The Predator

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    If this is the words of the real Chris Eubank, then obviously it works pretty good. One thing is sure, you need sparring, a lot of sparring, to be able to do what you want in the ring. Pads, bags, groundwork, running etc and no sparring won´t help you if you are going to fight for real.
    I´ve heard that Nigel Benn never sparred, but I doubt it, no serious trainer would let anyone go up into a fight without sparring first, that is my opinion.
    and yes, you need a lot of sparring before you fight. The more the better.
    The predator
     
  11. Lorn

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    Chris made it up as He went along. But the sparring was Hard for 3 weeks , the last week He spent in Bed.
     
  12. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :lol:

    Lets hope your never at the healm training a young fighter. Why run, why life weights, why skip, why do anything other then box? Progression. Sparring will only allow a certain amount of progression in any key area.... Its the best training but not the be all and end all.... Eubank wasn't a great trainer anyway hardly a great example.
     
  13. atberry

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    Pinched from another forum - extracts from Eubanks autobiography! (Highly interesting)


    Talking of his earliest days...

    Sparring was the gospel of New York gyms. It was their faith. Everybody spars. Sparring is how you become a good fighter. It is far more important than the road work, the bag work, the skipping, the shadow boxing, all of it. The most essential thing you need to do if you want to be a good fighter is to spar four or five times a week without fail. And in New York, sparring was not going through the motions either - these were merciless bang-ups. This was a boxing commandment I took with me when I returned to England and to which I adhered throughout my career.

    I started off with one set of three rounds, then over the months that progressed into six-rounders, then eventually full-blooded 12-rounders. We even did some 15-rounders to condition ourselves so that a 12-round fight felt easier. That was how I honed my ring intelligence.

    --

    The first trainer I had was an older man called Andy Martinez, a Puerto Rican. He was only about 5' tall. He got me exceptionally fit. He taught me only two punches, which were the straight left and the straight right, no hooks to the body, no body shots. He only worked with amateurs, mainly getting them in shape - which he did superbly. After about two years, I wanted to work with Maximo Pierret, the main trainer at the Jerome [url]boxing gym
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    People sometimes say to me why do you have to repeat one punch so many times to perfect it? Well, these are not simple skills. It took me two years to learn how to throw the right hand. Then there's the left hook, the right hand to the body, the left upper cut to the body, the right upper cut to the body, the right hook to the body - these punches take years and years to learn. You don't climb through the ropes and just do it.
    --


    On integrating martial arts into your training and boxing style once you've learned the basics (!)...

    Doctor (Walter Jonson) had an expansive knowledge of internal and external martial art forms such as aikido, jiu-jitsu, karate, tai chi, and Chinese boxing, and at first it was very frustrating. For example, [url]martial arts
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    [/url] like pa-qua are open handed, but obviously boxing uses a closed fist. Doctor's martial arts were about holding, striking with your palm and fingers, whereas boxing was about striking only with your knuckles. He was trying to teach me these forms, but because I liked him so much I couldn't tell him that I was struggling to incoporate them into boxing. This went on for perhaps three years.

    What I did extract from everything I observed about martial arts was the foot movement, which was all about positioning and escape. The stance and poise in martial arts is 98% on your back foot and 2% on your front. Boxing is 50/50, unless you go into a position to strike, at which point you vary the weight distribution. I took that and spliced into my boxing style. People often ask me how the martial arts and boxing mix. The point is this: boxing is actually the highest form of martial arts, because you have to learn how to absorb punishment before you can initiate it.

    Another aspect Doctor brought to my game was strecthing. Obviously, as a boxer, flexibilty is vital, but many fighters only have flexibility in one dimension, namely that of the direction of the punch. So another aspect I took from the martial arts was to develop all-encompassing flexibility, or amplitude, and by that I mean agility in every direction. For example I learned how to do the Japanese splits, which is where your legs are completely flat, then you roll your abdomen and chest to the floor. This is an excruciating skill to develop and can only be achieved by constant repetition. A fight is not just about strength, it is about flexibility. These extraordinery skills, when taken into the ring proved to be very powerful tools.
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    No weights...!

    I never did much weight-training - lifting weights and boxing never go together, it tightens you up. Boxing is about being loose and relaxed.
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    From around mid-89 right through his championship career...

    Brighton was ideal for the early morning road work before the gym. I used to sometimes run up the very steep steps at the cliff tops which was pretty easy. Hill running, though, I didn't like it at all. There is a place called Bear Road which was just the longest uphill slog you've ever seen! Usually I'd run, but sometimes cycle. Beach running sessions were also a real test. The large pebbles on Brighton Beach sucked the [url]stamina
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    The late morning or early afternoon was gym time (often at Barry's Matchroom gym in Romford, latterly at my own gym at home). I would start by warming up, which consisted of 15 minutes of stretching, then 15 minutes of shadow boxing, but not just using fists, using my feet and body to develop agility. Much of this would be done in front of mirrors, what I like to call more fanciful boxing. Then, I'd do between three and six rounds (of three minutes each) on the heavy bag, moving around it, playing with it. Then three rounds on the pads - Ronnie rarely directed the pad work, I told him where I wanted him to place the pads, because I had certain shots in mind that I needed to perfect. The pads were great for target practice, accuracy and power. My need was to train for power, because I naturally had the accuracy. What I needed to achieve was landing a punch which would have a long-term effect, namely it would manifest itself three or four rounds later. If you keep hitting someone with good shots to the body, maybe only twice a round, four rounds later it will catch up with them and break them down.

    Then I would do six rounds of skipping, but without rest, I would skip straight through the four-minute clock on the wall. Then it was sit-ups. Although I cannot deny sit-ups are very important for the abdomen (compulsory infact), I would only do 50 or 60 repititions, twice a day. My experience taught me that there was nothing more effective than taking actual body shots. Just as I learned in New York, you would leave
    [url]your body[/url] exposed and tell your sparring partner to work on it with full-blooded punches to really harden your stomach. It was not about having hard abdominals, it was about immunity. You could do 1000 sit-ups a day, but if a fighter hits you correctly, you'd crumble. The only way to gain immunity was by taking hundreds of shots to the body.

    This was where sparring came in. Throughout my career, I probably sparred more than any other fighter I know. I would start to spar about two weeks into the training schedule. The training would change slightly to half an hour of shadow boxing, between three and 12 rounds of sparring, then skipping, speedball and sit-ups. For a championship fight, I would spar usually 125 rounds. Nothing was more important than sparring. When you haven't sparred for a month or two, you go in there, the guy throws a punch and you instinctively squint. Within a week of intense sparring, he throws the same punch and you don't even blink, you stop flinching and move.





    [url]http://www.setanta.com/Documents/podcasts/BBH_290109.mp3[/url] (listen from 20 mins in, about 1/3 in and wait for Eubank..)
     
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  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Eubanks conditioning was one of his biggest failings, as was his balance and co-ordination at times. He had mong strength though and a sharp boxing brain. Could have been much better then he actually was IMO.